With respect to gardens within gardens, you raise a good point as a devil's advocate there... as a counterpoint though; if I was designing a map of botanic gardens using OSM, I think it would be reasonable to assume or even expect that most botanic gardens would have a series of smaller gardens associated with them. Would it be smarter for our hypothetical botanical garden map-maker to design their tools to look at each area's garden:type and garden:style keys (assuming either is, present, accurate and correct?) I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, but I'd assume it would be very unusual for an area tagged with garden:type=botanical to contain a second area also sharing that tag, whereas you'd probably expect to see examples of areas that could be tagged with garden:style=french, garden:type=show_garden, garden:type=arboretum or garden:style=rosarium inside of a botanical garden.
(apologies Andrew as well, I think I sent this to you twice, my mailinglist-fu is a little unrefined.) On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:47 PM Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > One issue is this same tag leisure=garden is being used for both > individual gardens and the whole garden grounds. For example the "Royal > Botanic Gardens" in Sydney has a number of smaller named gardens like the > "Rose Garden", "Herb Garden" etc. Someone building an app for these gardens > might want to know which are the higher level gardens which probably have a > website, contact number, etc. and the individual gardens inside. Currently > you'd just need to guess based on the geometry being inside another. > > The advantage of tagging as leisure=park is that you no longer have an > issue with the tag being used for two diferent things. > > On the other hand if I'm building a map I might want to render a flower > icon for "gardens" and maybe a tree for a park. If we tag "Royal Botanic > Gardens" as a park, I can't distinguish these gardens from a regular park. > > There's always going to be a fair amount of overlap, some gardens will > have open spaces for leisure more like a park like > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3744999 > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3744999#map=16/-33.8628/151.2169> and > some parks will have some small gardens as part of the park like > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19603604, where you draw the line is > always going to be uncertain. > > I still think Royal Botanic Gardens is more a garden than a park, because > of the amount of work that goes on there towards maintaining the actual > gardens, this is it's primary function. The fact that you could use a > clearing to kick a ball around (more like a park) I think is a secondary > function. >
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