Awesome write up.
I've grown up in Europe and can't recall any roads that would match coarse, 
angular railway balast. I really wonder why this is even a definition that made 
in into the wiki.

Are there any example photos we can add to the Aus wiki text?


On 6 March 2021 12:40:32 pm AEDT, Little Maps <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi folks, everyone's thoughts on unpaved road surfaces have been very
>valuable. I wholeheartedly support Tony's suggestion to add more photos
>of
>Australian examples to the international wiki, as the European examples
>bear little semblance to most Australian roads.
>
>In addition to Tony's suggestion, can I suggest that we also add a
>section
>to the Australian tagging guidelines (and perhaps also to the
>international
>wiki) that explicitly describes the differences between how the tag
>surface=gravel has been used in Australia compared to the international
>wiki. I've drafted the following text and welcome all feedback. Thanks
>again and best wishes, Ian
>
>Suggested text: Gravel roads
>
>Unpaved 'dirt' roads in Australia are widely called 'gravel roads' and
>are
>often signposted as such. Similarly, surface=gravel is currently (March
>2021) the most widely used tag for unpaved road surfaces in Australia
>(excluding the broader term, surface=unpaved, which is commonly used).
>h
>ttps://taginfo.geofabrik.de/australia-oceania/australia/keys/surface#values
>
>The interpretation of the tag surface=gravel by many mappers in
>Australia
>differs greatly from the idiosyncratic definition of surface=gravel on
>the
>international wiki, which defines 'gravel' as coarse, angular railway
>ballast. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface This coarse
>surface exists but is relatively rare on Australian roads.
>
>While mappers are generally advised to follow the accepted definitions
>of
>surface tags as described on the OSM wiki, map users should be aware
>that
>most roads, tracks and paths that are tagged with surface=gravel in
>Australia will have surface materials far finer than railway ballast.
>These
>surfaces may accord with a wide range of accepted surface tags,
>including
>surface=compacted, fine_gravel, gravel (rarely), dirt and earth.
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface
>
>Given the large number of highways that have been tagged with
>surface=gravel in Australia (>26,000), the discrepancy between
>Australian
>and international usage of this tag is unlikely to be overcome in the
>foreseeable future.
>
>All feedback is most welcome.
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