Hi Nemanja Sorry, been busy packing to go away!
Thanks for asking for further feedback :-) Yep, I'd go along with Michael - if it's named on the Govt data, then highway=unclassified + access=public; if not named highway=unclassified + access=private. You'd probably also be able to add surface=unpaved to just about all of them. Thanks Graeme On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 09:56, cleary <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello again Nemanja > > I response to your question, based on my experience, I still have the view > that unnamed roads in South Australia are not intended for public access. > Therefore, if mapped, they should be tagged as access=private. I don't > think there would be any exceptions but, if there are, individual mappers > who survey such areas could later amend the access tags and/or add names as > appropriate. > > If the roads actually exist then I have no problem with mapping them. My > particular concern is that failing to tag them as private could endanger > lives and livelihoods. > > Thanks for your diligence in following up this issue > > Michael Cleary > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021, at 11:07 PM, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I know it might be a vacation period for most people, but if you are > > still online, we would like to know which method is more acceptable for > > the whole community before we proceed. > > > > I really appreciate any help you can provide. > > Nemanja > > > > *From:* Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) > > *Sent:* Monday, July 5, 2021 8:59 AM > > *To:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>; Ewen Hill > > <[email protected]> > > *Cc:* OSM Australian Talk List <[email protected]> > > *Subject:* RE: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Low quality road classification > > contributions in SA via Microsoft Open Maps Team - contact point? > > > > Thanks again for the constructive suggestions. > > > > My team will treat this very carefully and as a high priority. > > > > Two main questions are here: > > * Do you want us to correct the classification for every of these > > ~2500 segments? > > * If the answer is Yes, please tell us what to do with the access > > tag. We will strictly follow your guideline. We would like to fix it in > > one pass. > > * Do you want us to remove all these roads entirely from the map? > > > > Both options are completely fine with us since we have a list of these > > segments already. In any of these two cases, we will process them one > > by one. No bulk edits will be made. > > > > Thanks, > > Nemanja > > > > *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Sunday, July 4, 2021 2:26 AM > > *To:* Ewen Hill <[email protected]> > > *Cc:* OSM Australian Talk List <[email protected]> > > *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Low quality road classification > > contributions in SA via Microsoft Open Maps Team - contact point? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 at 17:28, Ewen Hill <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The examples below could cause significant resentment to OSM and I > would suggest that all are private driveways that I can see. Perhaps we > need to stop updating, reset and look at how to improve the existing edits. > An initial suggestion could be to set all new roads to private, add a fixme > and perhaps organise a map-roulette of these? Of the ten edits I sampled, > all ten appeared to be private driveways on private property. > > > > > > I am sure a few of us would be happy to discuss some of these > changesets with the MS team so we can both learn a little more and see how > we can assist before large changesets. > > > > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&way=955658598#map=16/-33.8579/137.7863 > < > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fedit%3Feditor%3Did%26way%3D955658598%23map%3D16%2F-33.8579%2F137.7863&data=04%7C01%7Cv-nebrac%40microsoft.com%7C540c3da9302440051c8308d93e82d0c8%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637609554073989630%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2B%2BQlVcXIJgEUgsOIRftp7n0MmS1vEI%2FDylKZsTC7tQw%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&way=956458626#map=17/-34.50327/138.97656 > < > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fedit%3Feditor%3Did%26way%3D956458626%23map%3D17%2F-34.50327%2F138.97656&data=04%7C01%7Cv-nebrac%40microsoft.com%7C540c3da9302440051c8308d93e82d0c8%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637609554073999629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7OmOT2bGJDvl0AkZpsRPTFpAjy8eg%2BeokGR%2Fw%2FaBhrc%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&way=956583567#map=16/-32.6304/138.1584 > < > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fedit%3Feditor%3Did%26way%3D956583567%23map%3D16%2F-32.6304%2F138.1584&data=04%7C01%7Cv-nebrac%40microsoft.com%7C540c3da9302440051c8308d93e82d0c8%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637609554074009621%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=UOV7p34zrYspkirXpMvy%2BnMEvRQLt2iEheYNCNP1IDU%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > Yes, I'd go along with Ewen here. > > > > The first of these examples "could" be a through public road, the > > second looks like two private driveways that join in the middle, & I'd > > be amazed if the third isn't only a driveway. > > > > Thanks > > > > Graeme > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-au mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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