Hi
This matter has been referred to the DWG
Tony
Hey all,
Sorry to be a tattle-tale, but this user's behaviour is continuing,
despite increasing demands on them to engage.
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=11210886
In the most recent conversation, they have converted a powerline way
into a footpath in error.
Not sure what the appropriate next steps would be?
On 2021-09-23 12:27, Andrew Harvey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 22:02, <[email protected]> wrote:
I have looked back at months of changesets by this user. Nearly all
involve retagging which is at best arguable and at worst wrong. It
appears to be largely done from satellite images and not survey.
The largest category is changes of paths, (typically not those beside
roads, not what are generally termed footpaths in Australian English)
from dual use to bicycle=no on the logic that all paths are footpaths
unless otherwise signed under Victorian law.
This argument is questionable at best, these changes are not in "road
related areas" (See rules 11-13 of the Road Rules) and not covered by
the Victorian no riding on footpaths rule.
Another category of changes is strange instances of bicycle=no. For
example you could ride a horse into the Eastern Sewage Plant but not a
bicycle. You can drive a car or walk into Wilson Botanic Gardens but
not enter on a bike. You can enter the Quarter Circuit residential
subdivision by any mode of transport except bicycle. You can travel
Browns Lane Aspendale by any mode of transport except a bicycle.
A third category is removal of bicycle=designated, it would require a
site visit to establish whether there was signage to designate cycle
use and whether this tag should remain.
A fourth is changes of narrow lanes servicing a number of houses to
service=driveway despite the wiki indicating that "A driveway is a
minor service road leading to a specific property"
They have not edited for the past 3 days. They have had changeset
comments on 19 changesets from 10 different commenters but replied to
only 3 and accepted that they were in error in 0.
There are 636 changesets by this person with many ways retagged. An
estimated 5000 ways have been retagged. An enormous amount of work if
each way was to be properly assessed.
Do I have community support for the proposal that they be invited to
respond in a constructive way to all the changeset comments and if
they do not respond in a timely matter the community should consider
mass reversion of all changesets? Is this a matter that can be managed
effectively through talk-au or should the DWG be involved?
I deeply regret suggesting that all of a users work might be deleted
but the amount of work to check each way is prohibitive. If any one
can devise an automated process to protect the few constructive edits,
that would be great.
The shared driveway point was raised by Tom on talk-au today, and
it seems like the driveway=pipestem tag could be used in these
cases so mark it as a shared driveway.
Regarding the other changes, I agree with your points, hopefully
the mapper can respond to their changeset comments and hopefully
work this out though discourse. Failing that, having good changes
caught up in reversions is never good, but I understand it's a lot
of effort otherwise, wish the tooling handled this better.
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