In Australia, maybe. Globally? Very unlikely.

 

From: Andrew Harvey <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2021 13:53
To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
Cc: OSM-Au <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Lifeguards & "Swim Between the Flags"

 

Isn't it always the case though that patrolled beaches will have flags and that 
is the area patrolled? My point is then what's the difference between 
`lifeguard=yes` and `lifeguard=yes @ flagged_area / red_and_yellow_flags`, to 
me they mean the same thing.

 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 18:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

That's it!

 

Today the flags are here, tomorrow they may be 100m South, then the next day 
they're 100m North of here, but the flags will always show where the lifeguards 
are at any time.

 

Thanks

 

Graeme

 

 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 16:11, Adam Horan <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I think I see.

 

The lifeguards are where the flags are.

The flags are somewhere on this beach.

There'll be flags/lifeguards at certain times.

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 17:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Agree entirely but I'm not trying to map the flags, I was trying to work out a 
way of saying that the lifeguards are where the flags are?

 

Thanks

 

Graeme

 

 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 15:49, Adam Horan <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Flag position will vary daily based on weather conditions, tides, rips, 
proximity to the toilets, other stuff?

 

I think you'd just need to mark the whole beach.

 

Adam

 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 15:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Thanks everybody!

 

In response to a couple of points ...

 

No, I'm not trying to mark that the lifeguards are "in this spot", I just 
thought that some way of indicating where on the beach (i.e the flags) they 
would be would be good.

 

& yes, we're all taught to swim between the flags, but is that standard 
teaching everywhere?

 

Thanks

 

Graeme

 

 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 12:26, Simon Slater <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

On Wednesday, 20 October 2021 9:54:22 AM AEDT Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> A little while back, I put the emergency=lifeguard proposal through,
> together with lifeguard=yes to describe those times when there is a
> lifeguard/s on the beach, but they may not be in a fixed location.
> 
<snip> 
> Or do we just not worry about it, & work on the idea that =yes is
> sufficient?
> 
When I were a lad, we were taught to always look for the flags when going to 
any beach to swim, teaching personal responsibility and obey the flags because 
the lifesavers know that beach better.  Therefore, actual flag positions need 
to be known as variable.

However, tagging a beach that does have a SLSC is good because those 
unfamiliar with the area, tourists say, or families with young children, can 
then preferentially choose such beaches.  Similarly, the more adventurous, or 
those desiring solitude, can preferentially choose alternate locations.

-- 
Regards
Simon Slater

Registered Linux User #463789 @ http://linuxcounter.net

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