The point of that link was that most of them aren’t highway=service to start 
with, so service=* wouldn’t apply to most of them.

 

From: Andrew Hughes <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 08:55
To: Dian Ågesson <[email protected]>
Cc: OSM Australian Talk List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Service Roads?

 

Thanks All,

 

Graeme: naming might help, but I am not sure if they would conflict with an 
official signposted name.

 

Dian: Interesting with the "frontage road". Yes, that is suitable but the 
tagging guidelines do not have anything unique about these roads. They are 
simply the standard (non _link) highway=* tags. Perhaps "service"="frontage 
road" would help, but I don't know if this would collide with other conventions.

 

Thanks all!

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 22:13, Dian Ågesson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi Andrew,

>From your description in example A, it sounds like you are describing frontage 
>roads (what we would call service roads in Australia). Rather confusingly, the 
>service tag isn’t the best tag for these roads; 
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frontage_road has a good explanation.

Dian

On 2021-11-19 15:56, Andrew Hughes wrote:

Hi Again, 

 

With regards to service roads. I would like to know if there is a tagging 
convention that would provide a distinction between roads that appear to all 
fall under highway=service for the following examples:

 

Example A: This is what is referred to "traditionally" as a "service road" 
(outside the OSM world that is). I'd describe it as,a minor road that is 
associated with a major road, it runs parallel to its major road counterpart 
and gives general access to the local area so that the major road is occupied 
by traffic that does not want to stop in the local area 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118171809

 

Example B: A way (perhaps even a driveway or parking_isle?) that provides 
access to a carpark. It's not really paired with a major road and is not 
designed to "split" the local traffic from traffic passing through as per A  
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28262128

 

 

The main difference I feel between A and B is that A is really part of a 
major/bigger arterial way and services the local needs that the arterial way 
will not. B is not really a thoroughfare and is more in line with the 
"destination" rather than a thoroughfare. You only use the B way to access the 
carpark(s). Someone else might have a better interpretation however I do feel 
like on the ground they are very different roads and tagging with 
highway=services alone doesn't reflect that.

 

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

 

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