I do not support adding variants to the standard alphabet. 

The English language has, for many generations, incorporated words from other 
languages but used the standard alphabet to represent the sounds of those 
words.  The word "cafe" had a mark over the final letter in the original French 
"café" but we use the word daily without that mark, whatever it is called, over 
the final letter and I don't feel that we are dis-respecting the origins of the 
word. 

Where locations are named in multiple languages, it is appropriate that the 
spelling and alphabet be consistent with each particular language, whether it 
is Pitjantjatjara or French or English or Bulgarian.  

I noted that the Australian Government website   
https://www.awe.gov.au/parks-heritage/national-parks/uluru-kata-tjuta-national-park/culture-and-history/history-park#the-1930s--tourism-begins
  refers respectfully to Kata Tjuta, spelling its name using only the standard 
alphabet.  In a quick perusal, I noted this government website used 
Pitjantjatjara spelling for one word but printed the whole word in italics to 
indicate that it was non-standard text.

To recapitlate, I support using the standard alphabet for the particular 
language.  The standard English language does not use macrons althgugh standard 
Pitjantjatjara does. 

In determining the language to be used as the primary name for any location or 
landmark, I think OSM should be consistent with the primary usage of the 
official government naming authority in the particular jurisdiction. I am not 
aware of the official naming authority in the Northern Territory but, If it 
uses Pitjantjatjara language and alphabet, then OSM should follow.



On Wed, 24 Nov 2021, at 12:14 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> There is a good discussion going on at talk-nz about use of macrons and 
> names 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-nz/2021/thread.html#318
>
> There was talk about if macrons should appear in the English name 
> (name:en), which got me checking Uluṟu and Kata Tjuṯa.
>
> So should that be tagged as
>
> name=Kata Tjuṯa
> name:en=Kata Tjuta
> name:pjt Kata Tjuṯa
>
> or
>
> name=Kata Tjuṯa
> name:en=Kata Tjuṯa
> name:pjt Kata Tjuṯa
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7474225
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