Thanks fellas! This bit "You are welcome to use the data as a reference if you are manually drawing in information", still has me confused though?
Thanks Graeme On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 18:51, Michael James <[email protected]> wrote: > As a local I can provide some more info > > > > Toowoomba RC does not own all the data used in the online mapping system > this is shown in the disclaimer when you open the maps. > > > > Most of the data belongs to the State of Queensland (DERM) and as such the > Council can’t provide the permission required. > > > > Quoted ownership section :- > > > > The map layers displayed in TRC's Online Mapping are compiled from a > variety of sources. Many of the map layers in TRC's Online Mapping are > based on digital cadastral data provided under licence to the Toowoomba > Regional Council by the State of Queensland as represented by the > Department of Environment and Resource Management. These digital cadastral > data provided under licence are referred to as “licensed data”. The user of > TRC's Online Mapping acknowledges and accepts that the State of Queensland > is the owner of the intellectual property rights, including copyright in > the licensed data. These conditions of use do not confer on the user of > TRC's Online Mapping any rights of ownership in the licensed data. The user > of TRC's Online Mapping acknowledges and accepts that Toowoomba Regional > Council is the owner of the intellectual property rights, including > copyright, in the information and data provided through TRC's Online > Mapping, with the exception of licensed data. These conditions of use do > not confer on the user of TRC's Online Mapping any rights of ownership in > any data. > > > > Michael > > > > > > *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, 9 December 2021 11:47 AM > *To:* OSM-Au <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [talk-au] Fwd: Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap > > > > After being up that way on holidays a few weeks ago, I found out that > Toowoomba Region Council have online maps for addresses etc: > > > https://www.tr.qld.gov.au/payments-self-service-laws/web-apps/mapping/12731-online-mapping-2 > . > > > > Contacted Council to see if we could get permission to use them & this is > the result. > > > > So, does > > "Council doesn’t have an Open Data Policy at this time so we can’t issue > an approval for you to use the data" > > + > > "You are welcome to use the data as a reference if you are manually > drawing in information" > > mean that we can use it, or we can't? > > > > Or is it a 50/50 - we can't import the data, but we can use it manually? > > > > Thanks > > > > Graeme > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Adam Purves* <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 09:38 > Subject: RE: Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap > To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > Cc: Chris Fogarty <[email protected]>, Sandra Sherriff < > [email protected]> > > > > Hi Graeme, > > > > Unfortunately, Council doesn’t have an Open Data Policy at this time so we > can’t issue an approval for you to use the data (This is the mechanism by > which Council would provide the requested approval). > > > > You are welcome to use the data as a reference if you are manually drawing > in information. > > > > Kind regards, > > Adam. > > > > *Adam Purves* > > *Coordinator Geospatial Information Management (GIS)* > Information Communication and Technology > > Toowoomba Regional Council > PO Box 3021 Toowoomba QLD > *P *07 4688 6681 <07%204688%206681> *E *6681 *IM * > sip:[email protected] > [email protected] > www.tr.qld.gov.au > > > > *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:28 PM > *To:* Adam Purves <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Chris Fogarty <[email protected]>; Sandra Sherriff < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap > > > > [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation - be > cautious, particularly with links and attachments. > > > > Hi Adam > > > > Thanks for your very quick response. > > > > The CC licence, or lack of it, isn't a critical thing as long as we have > your explicit permission to make use of your data. > > > > As to how it would be used, personally, I would only be using it to make > manual updates of such things as parks, addresses etc, but other people, > who are more data savvy than I am!, may well look into importing data sets. > > > > To see what sort of data has previously been made available to us from > other sources, please have a look at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue. > > > > If you would like to know more, I can pass your questions on to someone > whom I know is more heavily involved in data imports. > > > > Thanks > > > > Graeme > > > > > > On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 at 10:13, Adam Purves <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Graeme, > > > > Thank you for your email. > > > > At this time Toowoomba Regional Council doesn’t have a Creative Commons > licence available for our GIS data. > > > > Can I please clarify how you intend to use Council data in OSM? Are you > intending to load the Council data directly into OSM, or are you using > Council data as a reference and are manually drawing/updating OSM? > > > > Kind regards, > > Adam. > > > > *Adam Purves* > > *Coordinator Geospatial Information Management (GIS)* > Information Communication and Technology > > Toowoomba Regional Council > PO Box 3021 Toowoomba QLD > *P *07 4688 6681 <07%204688%206681> *E *6681 *IM * > sip:[email protected] > [email protected] > www.tr.qld.gov.au > > > > *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 December 2021 3:33 PM > *To:* Toowoomba Regional Council <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap > > > > [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation - be > cautious, particularly with links and attachments. > > > > To whom it may concern > > I am a volunteer with OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/>, a > collaborative open project to create a global geodata set freely usable by > anyone on share-alike and attribution terms under the Open Database > License (ODbL) <http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/>. > > After recently visiting Toowoomba Region, and while then adding and > updating some details on OpenStreetMap, I noticed that you have online maps > of the area available for use by the general public: > https://www.tr.qld.gov.au/payments-self-service-laws/web-apps/mapping/12731-online-mapping-2 > . > > I can see, by looking at the Council pages online, that they are Copyright > Toowoomba Regional Council, and that we need permission to reproduce them, > but can’t see anything to say if they have been licensed for public use > under a Creative Commons licence? > > I was wondering if we could get your permission to make use of these > various maps to further upgrade the details shown on OSM? > > Could you please let me know whether you may be amenable to this idea, so > we can discuss any further requirements? > > Thank you > > Graeme Fitzpatrick > > > > If this email is spam, click here > <https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ==> to report the > email to TRC's email filter. > Doing so will reduce the likelihood of receiving it in the future. > > > > [image: Like us on Facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/toowoombaregion>[image: > Follow us on Twitter] <https://www.twitter.com/toowoombaregion>[image: > Follow us on Instagram] <https://www.instagram.com/toowoombaregion>[image: > Watch us on YouTube] <https://www.youtube.com/toowoombaregion/> > > > > > *We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the Toowoomba Region whose > song lines traverse our lands and pay our respect to Elders past, present > and emerging, for they hold the knowledge, rich traditions and bold > ambitions of Australia's first peoples. * > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the > use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and > delete the material from any computer. > The Council accepts no responsibility for the content of any email which > is sent by an employee which is of a personal nature or which represents > the personal view of the sender. > > If you wish to contact Council by non electronic means, Council's postal > address is: Toowoomba Regional Council. 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