I agree with Andrew's tagging guidelines update. I was never happy with tagging a way as a "living street" when it was obviously a driveway with a sign slapped onto it to basically say "drivers, please be careful, pedestrians might cross at any spot". On rendered data, it often makes it look like the area is a lot more active travel-friendly and "enjoyable to hang out on" than it actually is on the ground...

Cheers

On 17/2/22 11:23, Dian Ågesson wrote:

Hey Graeme,

Spotting your change certainly reminded me of the shared zone signs I’ve been seeing, but not because it is tagged incorrectly. It’s been on my to do list since I nearly got run over eating a Bunnings sausage over Xmas!

I think that this is a good example of a true “living street”; it would not have been a service road if not signed as a shared zone, and is intended to be shared space to encourage pedestrian traffic.

Similar examples I am familiar with include Fitzroy St, St Kilda at Acland Street; Kananook Creek Boulevard South in Frankston between Playne and Davey; and Hardware Lane, Melbourne, at the Bourke Street Carpark.

I have noticed that a lot of “true” living streets in Melbourne are busy roads that have been handed back to pedestrian traffic, or are in new, sterilised (soulless) places like Docklands.

Dian

On 2022-02-17 10:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

This discussion started in response to something that I mapped.
I was clearing a note / Inspector issue nearby & wondered why this street appeared differently on the map:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/216566993
Had a look & it was tagged as a service-alley which just didn't seem right, but neither did =residential, so I changed it to =tertiary (=unclassified may have been better?). Question was raised as to whether it should be, so I've now changed it to =living_street pending outcome of these discussions.
Here it is FYI:
https://goo.gl/maps/g3jpqjDQLgCktmfc7
https://goo.gl/maps/wNQyQo7RZRyg94pg8
So what do we think it should be?
Thanks
Graeme


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