On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 11:25, cleary <o...@97k.com> wrote: All valid arguments, thanks.
> If everything is exaggerated so that villages are described as towns and > towns as cities etc., then I think it just devalues the whole database on > which the map is based. > I certainly see where you're coming from, but it would be good to do something that fixes the vast empty when you cross the Great Dividing Range: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=7/-27.163/145.569 I'll be interested to read comments from other mappers. > So would I, but so far there's apparently not too many interested in it? Thanks Graeme > > > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, at 9:08 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Thanks! > > > > Yes, it probably shouldn't be a one size fits all equation. > > > > Against what you said, Rathdowney in SEQ, with ~1800 people, only has a > > cafe / takeaway / store with a few grocery items, pub, currently closed > > servo, all of police, RFS & (honourary) ambo, primary school, church/s > > but it's a very popular day-trip tourist stop, so I would definitely > > count it as a town. > > > > Most people travel 30k up the road to Beaudesert for a full range of > > services, so that should possibly become a city? > > > > But Maroon, 20k the other way, with only a primary school & a RFS > > station, would only be a village. > > > > Thanks > > > > Graeme > > > > > > On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 08:26, cleary <o...@97k.com> wrote: > >> > >> I agree that population is not necessarily the only factor but, in > practice, population correlates closely with the services and facilities > available in a location which is effectively the "relative importance", > isn't it? > >> > >> I presume you are considering putting bigger dots and bigger writing on > the map for small settlements in isolated areas. Map renderers can do that > for themselves if they wish. It is more important for OSM to show > on-the-ground truth. If a small settlement has few services, then showing > it as a town is misleading. > >> > >> Windorah Qld and Ivanhoe NSW are both currently shown as "town" in OSM > but neither has more than rudimentary health service (if any), a hotel, > small primary school and service station. I couldn't buy a coffee in either > place last time I visited. I don't think either place had even a small > supermarket or convenience store. Unlikely to find a doctor. Probably > wouldn't find a car mechanic, couldn't buy a new tyre if you needed one. > The locals all travel a couple of hundred kilometres for shopping, health > care etc. I find it very misleading to label these places as towns, just > because they are the largest settlements in their respective vicinities. > The towns are the places where people go to get the goods and services they > need. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023, at 2:18 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> > Have just raised this for discussion on both the Forum & Discord, so > >> > also throwing it out here. > >> > > >> > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Tagging_towns_by_relative_importance%2C_not_just_population_size > >> > > >> > Any thoughts or comments welcome, in any place! > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > Graeme > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Talk-au mailing list > >> > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk-au mailing list > >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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