Thanks for the feedback everyone.

I scouted a few of the tracks this morning and taken photos of the gates and 
signage. All of them are locked gates with signage indicating fire/emergency 
access only but have an open gate/turnstile type passthrough for people on 
foot. All of them also have signs indicating no dogs/cats/trail bikes and most 
of them also have no horses.

The Parks Victoria website indicates that horse riding is allowed in the park 
on certain trails (22km of tracks) but I haven't been able to find a map.

As I work my way through the park, I think the right thing to do would be to 
add access=private and then also add in horse=yes if it's one of the permitted 
tracks and also locked=yes to the gates.

-Darryl



> On 8 Aug 2025, at 22:25, Andrew Harvey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 17:32, Warin <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> On 8/8/25 13:45, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>> 
>>> Though others in the community have other opinions, it's been discussed a 
>>> few times, for example at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/164404229
>> This would allow horse riders even though the tagging has not mentioned 
>> them. The NSW NP have signs to say what is publicly allowed ... they may not 
>> indicate what is not allowed or what is 'privately' allowed. Locally to me I 
>> can tell walkers and cyclists are allowed on maintenance tracks, cyclists 
>> are not allowed on walking paths while walkers are, camping is not allowed. 
>> I've not seen any indication for horse riders in my locality.
>> 
> It would leave it for data consumers to decide about horse access since no 
> specific value is specified. If we know what the horse access is, we should 
> specify it with horse=*
> 
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 21:41, Ian Steer via Talk-au <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> If there is just a gate, but no signage saying it is restricted to emergency
>> vehicles only, why wouldn't you just add "barrier=gate" at the appropriate
>> places ?
> 
> You can and should, but a barrier=gate alone is ambiguous, is it a locked 
> gate, or is it more like an animal barrier which you can open to pass 
> through. So it's best when adding a barrier=gate to a highway=track or 
> highway=path to specify locked=yes/no and also to specify each access 
> restriction eg. motor_vehicle=private (only authorised vehicles can pass 
> through the gate), foot=yes (walkers can pass the gate).
> 
> It's common to also apply the same access tags to the ways "upstream" of the 
> gate, this makes it easier for maps to visually indicate access without 
> needing to run routing algorithms to try and make some guesses about it.
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