On 2014-01-14 11:06, Jo wrote :
Op 14 januari 2014 09:39 schreef Glenn Plas <[email protected]>:
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Morgend allemaal,

Deze week een paar triggers afgegaan hier door mapping acties van nieuwe gebruikers.    Ik zou graag user "OsmAnd_Pieter" willen bereiken, heb paar dagen terug een boodschap via OSM site achtergelaten zonder gevolg.   Spijtig dat een nieuwe gebruiker zijn tijd verspilt aan het taggen van zaken die reeds in OSM bestaan.

Probleem met deze users is dat ik vermoed dat hij via OSM AND (zien usernaam ...) aan het taggen is, waardoor er in 'mijn streek' verschillende duplicate speed_cameras in de database eindigen.  Of eindigden, want ik heb de meest van zijn changes liggen nakijken en verwijderd waar nodig.  gelukkig heeft die geen te grote changesets -voorlopig-.

Ik heb geen ervaring met OSM AND mappen (heb het wel draaien op phone).  Ik vraag me dus af waarom de user niet zag dat er al speed_cameras stonden, op meters van zijn plaatsingen.

Wel storend dat je zo'n user niet kan bereiken, wss logt die nooit op de site in.


Morning everyone,

This week a few automated triggers went off in 'my area' concerning actions of new usrs.   I would love to get in touch with the user "OsmAnd_Pieter" to discuss some of the beginner mistakes he recently made concerning speed camera's that he mapped that where already in the map.

It's a shame new users waste their time on things that have been done already.  I've removed the duplicate camera's for the crossroad nearby but he's taggin them all over north Belgium.   It looks like it's done on OSM-AND, obviouslty he's not seeing the existing speeds camera's on his device and he's not checking his commits in JOSM.

Pretty annoying we can't reach him

Glenn

If, while passing, you can reach or catch the one who passes time bulk changing "rue" to "Rue" without changing the house addresses, and probably other such niceties, put him in the same bag.  Mustn't be a newcomer, though, 'cause I think I remember that his name is "Mercator"   =-O

On 2014-01-14 11:27, Glenn Plas wrote :
On 14-01-14 11:17, Gerard Vanderveken wrote:
Don't know how the app works, but I assume they have a user login at OSM.
Maybe we need to contact the app-builder and ask that they add something in their app, that warns the user of messages in its inbox.
Or even allow him to read and write these messages.
That's a pretty good idea.  I'll dig through his changesets to see if it is really OSM-AND.  I think it gets save in the changeset too afaik.
I know Osmand, it contains some of my ideas (BTW, prefer writing a forum article; the idea is to close bugs whatever way asap and to never return to them).
To the best of my knowledge, they have no OSM update. Unless very very well hidden or very very new. Must be another app.  I suppose the editing leaders are found here.

Osmand (GPS) is a great routing quality check tool. It finds many huge mis-routing errors like mis-tagging sending cars where they shouldn't. I corrected several of them.  After the wrecked cars were towed, away traffic returned back to normal ;-)
But I found that the mis-tagging could be caused by wiki mis-instructions.  I wanted to fix them but I was scolded because "nobody will do that" (correct tagging, sic). I concluded that OSM is a desperate case if those who understood are told off by those who write wrong instructions.

Cheers,

André.

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