The best person to ask is [email protected] who created the page, and mentioned it on one of the mailing lists.
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:55 PM, André Pirard <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2015-04-28 17:53, Marc Gemis wrote : > > Er wordt momenteel gewerkt aan een wiki pagina met de legende voor de > stardaard rendering op osm.org: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Standard_tile_layer > > At this moment people are creating a page with the legend for the > standard rendering on osm.org: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Standard_tile_layer > > > What is its intended usage and how does/will one find that page? > This is good work and a possible companion to the Browsing Help page > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Browsing#Adding_a_Marker> I > cooperated with. > How to find places and features, how to move about, how to tell what you > see. > > But it's only useful if map readers can find it. > And *read below (attentively)* what can happen if one wishes the readers > to find information. > The work may be called a pile of hacky details, accreted nonsense etc. > > I opened a related paths and tracks renderings are indistinguishable > <http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=paths+and+tracks+renderings+are+indistinguishable&fr=sfp&fr2=&type=__alt__ddc_linuxmint_com&hspart=ddc&hsimp=yhs-linuxmint&iscqry=> > issue. > And they still are. > One particular point is that the map does not draw them like its key does > (path under footway). > This "layer" is like that key for paths and tracks, not like the map, not > distinguishable, and I confess that I did not know that there are (so) many > track renderings. Also surprised that no renderer mentioned that > diversity. The consensus was that the tracks must be a bit wider. But > it's still work to do. > > Cheers > > André. > > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Is what we are doing useful? > (OSM.org map case) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 01:42:34 +0100 From: André > Pirard <[email protected]> <[email protected]> To: Tag > discussion, strategy and related tools <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> CC: Aseerel4c26 > <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > > Hi, > > I think that one good way to promote OSM is to teach the general public to > make references to the main Map <http://www.openstreetmap.org>. > I know persons writing to 100s of people who could write things like the > rendezvous is here > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5013364?mlat=48.85783&mlon=2.29513#map=18/48.85826/2.29478> > . > As well as webmasters, for example of Universities of which every building > can be mapped in detail. > Alas, they don't know well how to do that. > > So, very welcomed by its co-authors, I improved this section in the > Browsing Help page > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Browsing#Adding_a_Marker>, some other > parts of that page and the French translation. I showed that, and the > writers were suddenly able to make links. > They wondered why [the heck] that page is unfindable and is not > highlighted as the help page of that map <http://www.openstreetmap.org>. > Generally, a program has a Help button to help using it, and sometimes > even a F1 key assignment. > > So, I made that request to openstreetmap-website > <https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/871>. > I received a one man's reply, without any discussion, closing the issue > instantly and disregarding my reply. > It amounts to saying that what I and the other contributors of that page > have written is crap. > "Full of all sorts of hacky low level details" (like the essentials to > make a link to OSM.org). > Furthermore, that opinion extends to links to other wiki pages "full of > years works of ac[c]reted nonsense". > In order of appearance, "zoom and pinch" ( > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Multi-touch#Multi-touch_gestures>Wikipedia), > "geolocation <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geolocation>", "Nominatim > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim>", "Mapping projects > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_projects>", "Cycle Map > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenCycleMap>", "Transport Map > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Transport_Map>", "MapQuest > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapQuest> Open", "List of OSM-based > services <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services>", > "Map Features <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features>", " > Key:highway <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>", ... > Finally, that OSM.org map <http://www.openstreetmap.org> would "not be > intended for the end user" but "the target audience is mappers". > > All that in the frequent style that I call "not", disparaging what others > did or think without a single constructive word about how to improve it or > what it should be. > > I feel like being insulted instead of thanked (as well as many other > persons). > > I have, of course, immediately stopped improving and translating the > OpenStreetMap documentation. > And I, who spent much time tagging, like the boundaries of south Belgium, > feel very much like stopping to participate to OSM entirely. > > You may want to add your comments to that issue. > > Best regards, > > André. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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