http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/aJNbj0WPU5lR9zI1tZ2XSQ There was no GPS reception in the garage.
Ph Casteleyn Dahliastraat 16 2800 Mechelen gsm 0486 516261 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Talk-be Digest, Vol 89, Issue 7 > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 12:00:08 +0000 > > Send Talk-be mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-be digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Multi-layer problems (Ruben Maes) > 2. Re: Multi-layer problems (Marc Gemis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 19:32:11 +0200 > From: Ruben Maes <[email protected]> > To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSM-talk-be] Multi-layer problems > Message-ID: > <CAOAgN4T4=nfjj2qf6sdftzjiyf07qgazut720gxjhcwzt+g...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello everyone > > I surveyed near the new Virginie Loveling building near the train > station in Ghent and mapped everything accordingly a few months ago. > > There are three levels of public road and the result on the map looks > extremely ugly and unreadable: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.03685/3.70898 > 3D maps can't handle it either (e.g. F4: > http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.0367277&lon=3.7088474&zoom=19&camera.theta=71.119&camera.phi=94.252) > > The fact that highway=pedestrian is now *always* rendered on top of > buildings (no matter what the layer=* values are) makes things worse. > > If you haven't been there, I guess you have no idea how this place > looks in real life from looking at the map. I can't think of any > application that would be able to do something useful with it. > Routing works a bit but if you cannot read the map or get useful > spoken instructions that's not really helpful. > > This has left me wondering ... Should we either cut in the provided > data or wait for renderers and applications to be able to handle these > kind of situations? A possible improvement could be something like > Google Maps does: it shows a layer chooser when you come near a > multi-layer place, both indoor and outdoor IIRC. This seems > complicated to implement in the current setup and I don't expect any > OSM map at all to be handling these situations gracefully soon. > > There are also problems near the Bruges train station, though it looks > a bit less ugly at first sight. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.19707/3.21997 > > Any ideas? > > Groeten > Ruben > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 05:23:40 +0200 > From: Marc Gemis <[email protected]> > To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multi-layer problems > Message-ID: > <CAJKJX-TagOMPsBExzSpoDyGzon=-fFasz_8q=wdthjs38an...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would never "cut in the data". I would just file a bug report with the > renderer. OTOH I haven't looked at the raw data, and maybe with some slight > retagging (without tagging for the renderer), it can be solved. Perhaps a > tunnel=building_passage on the highway=pedestrian > > just my .5 cents > > regards > > m > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Ruben Maes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello everyone > > > > I surveyed near the new Virginie Loveling building near the train > > station in Ghent and mapped everything accordingly a few months ago. > > > > There are three levels of public road and the result on the map looks > > extremely ugly and unreadable: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.03685/3.70898 > > 3D maps can't handle it either (e.g. F4: > > > > http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.0367277&lon=3.7088474&zoom=19&camera.theta=71.119&camera.phi=94.252 > > ) > > > > The fact that highway=pedestrian is now *always* rendered on top of > > buildings (no matter what the layer=* values are) makes things worse. > > > > If you haven't been there, I guess you have no idea how this place > > looks in real life from looking at the map. I can't think of any > > application that would be able to do something useful with it. > > Routing works a bit but if you cannot read the map or get useful > > spoken instructions that's not really helpful. > > > > This has left me wondering ... Should we either cut in the provided > > data or wait for renderers and applications to be able to handle these > > kind of situations? A possible improvement could be something like > > Google Maps does: it shows a layer chooser when you come near a > > multi-layer place, both indoor and outdoor IIRC. This seems > > complicated to implement in the current setup and I don't expect any > > OSM map at all to be handling these situations gracefully soon. > > > > There are also problems near the Bruges train station, though it looks > > a bit less ugly at first sight. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.19707/3.21997 > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Groeten > > Ruben > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-be mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/attachments/20150508/189f478c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Talk-be Digest, Vol 89, Issue 7 > **************************************
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