De weerslag van het fotograferen in Brussel is gekomen : ik heb een collega op kantoor die een schijnaanval uitvoerde een bloedlip bezorgd.
> From: [email protected] > Subject: Talk-be Digest, Vol 90, Issue 33 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:26:32 +0000 > > Send Talk-be mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-be digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier (Jo) > 2. Re: Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier (Jo) > 3. Re: Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier (Matthieu Gaillet) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:07:19 +0200 > From: Jo <[email protected]> > To: Nicolas Pettiaux <[email protected]> > Cc: OpenStreetMap Belgium <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier > Message-ID: > <CAJ6DwMBbUJZXEKp+Kg1TUFX9LL6LCeoDoJVMW0aO1X8ru=u...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I think Matthieu already did the parts that apply to the streets themselves. > > Adding the POIs should be a continuous effort. It's really hard to that > properly in a hurry. > > Philippe's efforts to Mapillary the streets of Brussels can be a lot help > for it and the Mapillary plugin for JOSM is already functional enough for > it as well. > > Philippe managed to cover a lot of ground, really impressive! My style of > making pictures is a bit different. I tend to stop and make close ups of > opening hours and other details I consider interesting enough to map > afterwards. But walking through the streets pointing a cell phone as a > camera already makes one receive a lot of strange looks when you simply go > forward and the way I do it, it's impossible to advance properly. > > Also doing it that way does not produce a smooth viewing experience when > flicking through the picture sequences. > > Anyway, compromises are always hard. > > Maybe you can organise another mapping party? And this time we actually go > out into the streets. I'm not sure how to go about the surveying + data > entry in just a few hours. Maybe it would be better to organise a series of > mapping parties with 2 weeks inbetween each one. The first for surveying, > the next for entering the data or help out if they tried themselves and > encountered problems along the way. > > Then another one surveying, this time around they know already what they > want to pay attention to. > > > Jo > > > 2015-06-28 12:41 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Pettiaux <[email protected]>: > > > Much thanks for the idea and the work. > > > > How can the new "pietonnier" be viewed on OSM ? > > > > Is is finished yet ? If not, when will it probably be ? > > > > What remains to be done ? > > > > How could I help ? > > > > Shouldn't we celebrate, and doing so for example, map explicitely every > > bar and restaurant in the center of Brussels, and while doing so, write > > down some important information about such places : their names, > > specialities, opening times, website, telephone number, accessibility info, > > kind of food served or of beer served ... ? > > > > Should we write a press release to inform the users that OSM-be is ready > > for the new arrangement and is probably the first online map to be so. So > > it should also work for routting. > > > > I have started https://annuel.framapad.org/p/PsmBxl20150628 and I would > > like some help for the content (to be sure to write something that is true) > > and the translation to English and Flemisch > > > > Nicolas > > > > -- > > Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - [email protected] > > Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres > > > > «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, > > Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une > > habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» > > Richard Stallman > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/attachments/20150628/86cd09ca/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:11:56 +0200 > From: Jo <[email protected]> > To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier > Message-ID: > <caj6dwmazfeudz4yr0ydqj47kgwcyrakqc9hofj-66-ojq1f...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I already amended the itineraries of De Lijn. I'm still waiting for > permission of STIB/MIVB to use their data. In the mean time I occasionally > fix/upgrade their routes, but it's a lot harder to do without data from > upstream, so it's not a priority for me. OTOH, this might be a good > occasion to tackle them. Matthieu just holler if you'd like me to get you > up to speed. I have quite a few tricks up my sleeve to make the job easier > to accomplish. (map styles, scripts, filter rules, where the tram rails are > (from Urbis), etc.) > > Jo > > 2015-06-28 13:05 GMT+02:00 Matthieu Gaillet <[email protected]>: > > > > > Thanks Nicolas. > > > > It’s done at 95% from the cars and pedestrian point of view but would need > > many improvements regarding the public transport and bicycles for their > > respective infrastructures an itineraries which were extensively modified > > and require much more (more difficult) work. I prefer to wait for the > > actual realisation of the pedestrian zone to go on site surveying because > > lot of details are missing or unclear on the website. > > > > I’ll review the press release and amend it if I feel so. Thanks for doing > > it !! > > > > Matthieu > > > > > > 28 Jun 2015, at 12:41, Nicolas Pettiaux <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Much thanks for the idea and the work. > > > > > > How can the new "pietonnier" be viewed on OSM ? > > > > > > Is is finished yet ? If not, when will it probably be ? > > > > > > What remains to be done ? > > > > > > How could I help ? > > > > > > Shouldn't we celebrate, and doing so for example, map explicitely every > > bar and restaurant in the center of Brussels, and while doing so, write > > down some important information about such places : their names, > > specialities, opening times, website, telephone number, accessibility info, > > kind of food served or of beer served ... ? > > > > > > Should we write a press release to inform the users that OSM-be is ready > > for the new arrangement and is probably the first online map to be so. So > > it should also work for routting. > > > > > > I have started https://annuel.framapad.org/p/PsmBxl20150628 and I would > > like some help for the content (to be sure to write something that is true) > > and the translation to English and Flemisch > > > > > > Nicolas > > > > > > -- > > > Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - [email protected] > > > Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres > > > > > > «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, > > Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une > > habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» > > Richard Stallman > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Talk-be mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-be mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/attachments/20150628/8c25daef/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:26:16 +0200 > From: Matthieu Gaillet <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], OpenStreetMap Belgium > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Of course I’m ! :-) > > I’ll get back to you later. Regarding the stib data I think that as Nicolas > said the fact that they were using Mapbox with an OSM layer is an invitation > to map. But maybe I’ve a slightly too liberal interpretation of the Openness > of data :-) > > Matthieu > > > On 28 Jun 2015, at 13:11, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I already amended the itineraries of De Lijn. I'm still waiting for > > permission of STIB/MIVB to use their data. In the mean time I occasionally > > fix/upgrade their routes, but it's a lot harder to do without data from > > upstream, so it's not a priority for me. OTOH, this might be a good > > occasion to tackle them. Matthieu just holler if you'd like me to get you > > up to speed. I have quite a few tricks up my sleeve to make the job easier > > to accomplish. (map styles, scripts, filter rules, where the tram rails are > > (from Urbis), etc.) > > > > Jo > > > > 2015-06-28 13:05 GMT+02:00 Matthieu Gaillet <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > > Thanks Nicolas. > > > > It’s done at 95% from the cars and pedestrian point of view but would need > > many improvements regarding the public transport and bicycles for their > > respective infrastructures an itineraries which were extensively modified > > and require much more (more difficult) work. I prefer to wait for the > > actual realisation of the pedestrian zone to go on site surveying because > > lot of details are missing or unclear on the website. > > > > I’ll review the press release and amend it if I feel so. Thanks for doing > > it !! > > > > Matthieu > > > > > > 28 Jun 2015, at 12:41, Nicolas Pettiaux <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > Much thanks for the idea and the work. > > > > > > How can the new "pietonnier" be viewed on OSM ? > > > > > > Is is finished yet ? If not, when will it probably be ? > > > > > > What remains to be done ? > > > > > > How could I help ? > > > > > > Shouldn't we celebrate, and doing so for example, map explicitely every > > > bar and restaurant in the center of Brussels, and while doing so, write > > > down some important information about such places : their names, > > > specialities, opening times, website, telephone number, accessibility > > > info, kind of food served or of beer served ... ? > > > > > > Should we write a press release to inform the users that OSM-be is ready > > > for the new arrangement and is probably the first online map to be so. So > > > it should also work for routting. > > > > > > I have started https://annuel.framapad.org/p/PsmBxl20150628 > > > <https://annuel.framapad.org/p/PsmBxl20150628> and I would like some help > > > for the content (to be sure to write something that is true) and the > > > translation to English and Flemisch > > > > > > Nicolas > > > > > > -- > > > Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres > > > > > > «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, > > > Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner > > > une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» > > > Richard Stallman > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Talk-be mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-be mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-be mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/attachments/20150628/f9bc8f33/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Talk-be Digest, Vol 90, Issue 33 > *************************************** Delete
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