Congrats for the evengelisation ! hope this will help the southern's GR to be open as well ....
now... let's map them \o/ 2016-06-02 23:22 GMT+02:00 Erik B <[email protected]>: > Just take care with using the GPX files on the GR Vlaanderen website to > *correct* GR routes on OpenStreetMap without further concerns. > The GPX files on that GR website are not always up to date. You should at > least take in account the route corrections 'Trajectwijzigingen' on the GR > website > <http://www.groteroutepaden.be/nl/route/45/gr-5-noordzee---middellandse-zee---deel-vlaanderen.html> > . > Those corrections are sometimes in the GPX file and sometimes they aren't. > And sometimes the route has been changed in the field but those changes are > not in the GPX file nor is there already a change description on the GR > website. > So using the GPX files on the GR website to correct GR routes on > OpenStreetMap can lead to creating faults instead of correcting one. > Checking in the field can't be improved. > > Some examples I recently encountered in Limburg: > > - the GR 561 between 'Dilserbos Parking' and Opoeteren. I had the GR > GPX on my GPS when I ran that track and discovered that the marks in the > field took me along a deviating route on some points.Afterwards I saw that > the deviations in the field are described as 'Trajectwijzigingen' on the GR > website but they weren't on the GPX. > - The GR5 between Bokrijk and Kinderboerderij Kiewit has been changed > in the field recently. It no longer follows a asphalt road but goes through > a meadow as other walking routes do. This change isn't on the GR website > but it is correct on Openstreetmap > <http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=16%2150.9625%215.3861> > http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=16!50.9625!5.3861 > > Besides corrections I see the advantage of using GR GPX files to put a GR > route on Openstreetmap that was't tagged. But that is only possible for so > far tracks or paths that are used are already on OSM. The qualification of > those ways aren't on the the GPX file. You can only know them by following > the GR in the field. > > But I like GR Vlaanderen because they already offer GPX files for free on > their website. In contrary to GR Sentiers in Wallonie where you can only > find the GPX files of GR's for free on Openstreetmap ( > Waymarkedtrails.org). > <http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=4580796&map=12%2150.6159%215.7517> > And they are all far better than GR Sentiers France that forced > Openstreetmap to delete the tagged GR's because of copyright protection in > France (after a holiday in the south of France I put a major part of GR > *Route* des *Cathares *on OSM. Meanwhile that GR relation that I did has > been deleted but the paths that I added are still on the map. And there > were new attempts to put that GR on OSM but for how long?). > > Regards, > > Erik > > > what is on OSM it is result > Op 02-06-16 om 19:10 schreef joost schouppe: > > Good news everyone! We're going on a long hike! > > After contacts initiated by Jo, licencing advice by Glenn and Ben, and a > talk with Wouter and myself, the Flemish GR organization today gave us the > explicit permission to use the GPX files of their routes for improving the > GR routes mapped in OSM. > > This is only a first step, they are considering managing their route > information completely within OpenStreetMap. I hope we can support them in > this direction. There are all kinds of ways that they can help us grow our > community, and ways in which we can support them. Feel free to start > thinking out loud in this thread. > > Let's build something together which might inspire organisations worldwide > to follow their lead. > > But enough with the emotions. > > I already added them to the Contributors wiki [1] and I have uploaded the > supporting document to the wiki pages [2]. Maybe we can add a little > section to some more Belgium wiki pages too? > I made a little UMAP [3] to help with my first corrections [4]. It's a > public map, so feel free to use it (and maybe make a simple tool out of it > for tracking our progress in our cleanup?). I started adding > #groteroutepaden to my changesets [4]. If we all do that, it might help > make some cool statistics. > > The GPX files can be downloaded when you get to the page for an individual > route at the bottom of the download section [5]. If you spot an error in > the GPX or reality, you can send it to them here [6]. > > > 1: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Grote_Routepaden_.28long_distance_paths_Flanders.29 > 2: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Licentie_GR_OSM.pdf > 3: > http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/nl/map/gr-vlaanderen_88642#14/50.8065/4.6619 > 4: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39738478#map=15/50.7593/4.2846&layers=N > 5: http://www.groteroutepaden.be/route.php?itemno=68 > 6: http://www.groteroutepaden.be/nl/meld-probleem.html > > > -- > joost schouppe > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing > [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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