> On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Sam Vekemans wrote: > >> Well, remember (last week i think it was) when OpenStreetMap was shut >> down >> for maintenance? >> Well, what about convincing the foundation to shut down the server so >> then >> all the data can be uploaded at once? >> That would fix the problem that you had. :) > > If we want to do a progressive import ( small tile by small tile) then > this > won't work, we aren't talking about one server shutdown but many. I'm > also > no so sure the rest of the OSM community is keen on outages for data > imports. We might be better off writing scripts to detect (and maybe > fix/revert?) conflicts after the fact.
I think asking OSM to shut down so we can play is unlikely to win us friends. And I don't think that it is required. There was much more data imported from TIGER than we have from GeoBase, and that was done county by county I believe. GeoBase tiles may be a rough equivalent in size to the county uploads from TIGER. I've emailed one of the TIGER import folks and asked him to join us here on talk-ca. I also think that uploading everything and hiding some / all of it is a bad idea. We know that tagging for the renderer is sub-optimal and that things should be tagged "correctly" so that future renderers and editors will "get it". Needless duplication of data (say OSM Toronto, plus Toronto on GeoBase) is wasteful of our resources in terms of database space and bandwidth to editors. I also see potential trouble with making additions and changes to any "overlaid" Toronto data. Imagine that you spend an afternoon adding bike routes and bus routes as relations, but didn't notice that half of the ways you worked on were "render=no". Or that you did notice and just changed them to render=yes because of course you want to see your relations render.... I'm very excited that we have this wonderful data contribution and that we have such an enthusiastic and energetic group to participate in the discussion and import. I think we should take a measured approach and delicate steps. TIGER took months to upload, and had at least one false start. We don't have a deadline to include the GeoBase data. Let's find a way to include it that makes it super easy to accept updates from GeoBase in future (hello, road names, I'm talking to you). And let's avoid three or four uploads of everything, then rollbacks, then uploads again. Nobody wants to see Canada rendered then unrendered like a web site that over-uses the < blink > tag. Best regards, Richard _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
