Yes, but we don't know for sure if the error (and all the other data) came from that database.
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Sam Vekemans <[email protected]>wrote: > > http://geodepot.statcan.gc.ca/2006/180506051805140305/06180505162102/92-500-072305/2009001/qual-eng.htm > > *Elections Canada Geographic Database* > In 1993, Elections Canada started to compile the Elections Canada > Geographic Database, using data from the Street Network Files, National > Topographic Database and Digital Chart of the World. Paper maps were created > for areas not covered by the Street Network Files and were distributed to > the Elections Canada returning officers, who added the road names with > information from the field. Elections Canada updated the road network with > new roads and added the road names but not address ranges. > > ... > So it could have been from NTDB data origionally, but the road name could > have been copied down wrong by the elections Canada officer. Where the > purpose was really to just get 'a' roadname, as the actual statistics > package was what they were after. > ... and it appears that the data quality would also very across the > country. In which case, sliding it to where the GeoBaseNRN says the roads > are, would be the best bet. > > Cheers, > Sam > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Sam Dyck <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Could someone check? StatsCan's website isn't working for me >> >> Sam >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Sam Vekemans < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Yup, i just sent off a nice message. Hopefully it will be recieved. I'll >>> let you know if i get a responce back. >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Dan Putler <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Could the data be from the StatsCan RNF? That would explain the geometry >>>> being off, while having street names on the ways. >>>> >>>> Maybe? >>> Then if that's true... then i think it's fine what the user is doing. >>> Its still improving the map (from a blank map). >>> Once the NRCan data is available, then more work is needed (for >>> everywhere for all the features). But again it's to improve the map. So >>> the fact that the geometry is off. We need to ask, how much off is it? >>> ... if it's within 10meters, then it's still acceptable (as thats the GPS >>> standard, when no other sources are available). >>> >>> Since GeoBase roads just has the basic linework is available. The >>> solution would be to also convert the GeoBaseNRN data for Manitoba, then >>> have the .osm files open in JOSM & adjust the OSM data to fit the GeoBase >>> road network geometry. >>> And the other solution is to be copying directly from the NRCan paper map >>> sheets (available as PDFfiles). they just need to be alligned with some >>> identifing points (the sheets have corner coordinates on it) and matched to >>> JOSM points. (i used Garmin MapSource to make a waypoint at the exact >>> corners of the sheet to get it lined up) >>> >>> A manual process, but if it's done by local people while adding more >>> details, it shouldn't be that hard. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Sam >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 16:34 -0800, Adam Dunn wrote: >>>> > The NRN site confirms that names are not available in Manitoba (NRN >>>> > for that province is on version 3) [1]. Sam, maybe you should send a >>>> > nice email explaining that a blank map is better than an illegal one. >>>> > This person has made edits to my hometown that I basically had to >>>> > revert because the geometry was way off. Don't know what his source >>>> > is... >>>> > >>>> > [1] http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html >>>> > >>>> > Adam >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Sam Dyck <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > About an hour ago he/she was editing in Saskatoon, and has >>>> > done a lot of work in Rural Manitoba to. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sam Vekemans >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Not sure if this link works >>>> > >>>> http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?area=1372:7&show=users&sort=total-&colour=date:30 >>>> > But you can see whats going on in the area.. >>>> > (or just log in and zoom to the area to find the >>>> > mappers) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/Orkp7E40gO0fwyJ8AKlIZQ?feat=directlink >>>> > >>>> > Ya, it seems like alot of work has been done >>>> > reciently. >>>> > >>>> > Cheers, >>>> > Sam >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Twitter: @Acrosscanada >>>> > Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com >>>> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans >>>> > Skype: samvekemans >>>> > OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org >>>> > @Acrosscanadatrails >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Sam Dyck >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > I did, Geobase doesn't even have the street >>>> > and lacks street names in Manitoba. (at least >>>> > this is the case in the viewer. The Geobase >>>> > data in Winnipeg appears to be out of date by >>>> > at least 14 years in some cases. >>>> > But yes, a mapping party would be a good idea, >>>> > any other Winnipegers on this list? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sam Vekemans >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Thanks for sharing. >>>> > The user seems to be doing alot of >>>> > great work. >>>> > Did you cross-check with the GeoBase >>>> > data? >>>> > Im not sure what the spelling of it is >>>> > in there. >>>> > >>>> > If anyone is in Winnipeg, perhaps a >>>> > couch mapping party is needed? >>>> > >>>> > Cheers, >>>> > Sam >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sam >>>> > Dyck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > So I just got a job that >>>> > involves entering addresses >>>> > into Google Maps (don't ask), >>>> > one of these streets, Drobot >>>> > Place (all address in >>>> > winnipeg), Google has either >>>> > deliberately or accidentally >>>> > named Drobol Place (here, >>>> > compare Yahoo, Bing, City of >>>> > Winnipeg Assesment, Google >>>> > Street View (Needs Flash)). >>>> > OSM makes the same mistake as >>>> > Google, which leads me to >>>> > beileve that the street and >>>> > others were copied from >>>> > Google. I really hate telling >>>> > people that I caught them >>>> > "cheating." (I'm sure it was >>>> > an honest mistake) Could >>>> > someone please contact the >>>> > editor responsible (you can >>>> > look him/her up, I don't want >>>> > to name names. I would be >>>> > willing to help with any >>>> > followup and cleanup, and you >>>> > can give them my username >>>> > (sammuell) if you wish, I just >>>> > can't bring myself to send a >>>> > message explaining just how I >>>> > caught them. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks >>>> > >>>> > Sam >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > Talk-ca mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Talk-ca mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Talk-ca mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>>> -- >>>> Dan Putler >>>> Sauder School of Business >>>> University of British Columbia >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-ca mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>>> >>> >>> >> >
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