Adam,
 
The problem was with empty tag managment with a previous version of the osm 
writer we use.  We are not expecting to lose anything!
 
Daniel

________________________________

From: Adam Dunn [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 6 mai 2010 13:46
To: Bégin, Daniel
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm samples


Awesome, works. Any idea what was causing it? Are we losing some tag (say for 
example the conversion was nullifying certain tags, and now we are losing out 
on those tags)?

Adam


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Bégin, Daniel <[email protected]> 
wrote:


        Bonjour Adam,
         
        All Canvec.osm samples have been replaced - there is no more empty tags 
(<tag/>).  For those who wishes to have a look, you will find links to samples 
in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
         
        I don't know how I did manage to open the previous version in JOSM but 
this version should open properly!
        Cheers,
         
        Daniel

________________________________

        
        From: Adam Dunn [mailto:[email protected]] 
        
        Sent: 5 mai 2010 17:03
        To: Bégin, Daniel
        Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 

        Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm samples
        

        If you generate new samples, I can test with the latest josm if you 
want. Looking at the 082H04 sample file (I modified all the offending tags that 
were preventing loading so that they had k="adam" v="crasher" so I could 
identify them), there doesn't seem to be a pattern to which objects get the 
null tags. Some are water related, some are roads, some have names, some don't, 
etc. Don't know where it would be coming from.
        
        As for the data itself, most seems quite good. Comparing the sample 
file to Toporama WMS, I noticed that waterfalls are missing from the sample osm 
file. Are they available in the Canvec data?
        
        It looks like roads that are dead-ends have turning circles by default, 
with a note to remove if it doesn't actually exist? Interesting choice of how 
to set things up.
        
        Adam
        
        
        On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Bégin, Daniel 
<[email protected]> wrote:
        

                Thanks Adam,
                 
                obviously it seems there being bad tags in the samples.  I'll 
replace the samples. 
                 
                About the conversion script, it should be OK because I have 
succesfully created/uploaded many tiles since then using JOSM.
                
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.371&lon=-72.271&zoom=11&layers=B000FTF
                 
                Daniel

________________________________

                From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Dunn
                Sent: 5 mai 2010 16:29
                To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 

                Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm samples
                

                Got a response on the error here 
[http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4971]. Turns out there is a malformed tag, 
that doesn't have key or value in it (a null tag)
                Here's line 16220 (the offending tag):
                <tag/>
                To compare, here's line 16221 (a properly formed tag):
                <tag k="waterway" v="stream"/>
                
                The josm developer has put in a better error message regarding 
what the problem is, but josm still will not load the file.
                
                So does this come down to there being a bad tag in the original 
Canvec data, or does the conversion script need some modifying?
                
                Adam
                
                
                On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sam Vekemans 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                

                        Ideas:
                        -mention this on the irc #osm-dev chat. As a JOSM 
develepor might be
                        able to help further
                        -zipping : try .bz2 compression, instead of regular 
zip, maybe it does
                        something different to the .osm data?
                        -at that same time (with that new josm revision, WMS 
didnt work for some people)
                        -josm doesnt automatically update all the plugins, when 
you get a new
                        version of the main exe file,
                        -Osmosis is the tool to combine .osm files, i havent 
yet been
                        sucessful at merging them (on the command line)
                        -each node would need a new ID, when merging files, 
maybe there is a
                        max # of features?
                        -Also, i'll check with user:MikeyCarter as he has gone 
ahead and
                        converted canvec for the Barrie Ontario area, using a 
customized
                        method.
                        
                        Cheers,
                        Sam
                        

                        On 4/30/10, Adam Dunn <[email protected]> wrote:
                        > If I understand correctly, older versions of JOSM 
would open the file
                        > correctly, but new versions will have problems? I'm 
not the only one here?
                        >
                        > I got the josm svn from this morning (rev 3213), 
opened it up in Eclipse,
                        > did some debugging, and see that for 
082H04_Sample.osm, the error occurs on
                        > or near line 16217. It may not be Josm that is at 
fault, since it seems to
                        > handle most other osm files quite well.
                        >
                        > Please see http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4971 
for the bug that I just
                        > filed.
                        >
                        > Adam
                        >
                        > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Daniel Bégin 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                        >
                        >> Hi Adam,
                        >>
                        >> I looked at Canvec.osm sample files about one month 
ago and did not get
                        >> any
                        >> problems with an earlier version of JOSM (before 
3196). I've just tried
                        >> using JOSM 3196 and I got the same error message. 
I'm running on Windows.
                        >>
                        >> No good explanation to give :-(
                        >>
                        >> Daniel
                        >>
                        >> -----Original Message-----
                        >> From: Adam Dunn [mailto:[email protected]]
                        >> Sent: April 29, 2010 12:46
                        >> To: Sam Vekemans
                        >> Cc: Daniel Bégin; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
                        >> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm samples
                        >>
                        >> I'm getting NullPointerException in JOSM for all 
three files, and making
                        >> sure the line feeds are unix (since I'm on linux) 
doesn't help. This is
                        >> with
                        >> JOSM 3208.
                        >>
                        >> Open file: /home/adam/Desktop/021L14_sample.osm 
(2796211 bytes)
                        >> org.openstreetmap.josm.io.IllegalDataException:
                        >> java.lang.NullPointerException
                        >>    at 
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmReader.parseDataSet(OsmReader.java:586)
                        >>    at
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmImporter.importData(OsmImporter.java:42)
                        >>    at
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmImporter.importData(OsmImporter.java:34)
                        >>    at
                        >>
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.FileImporter.importDataHandleExceptions(FileImport
                        >> er.java:57)
                        >>    at
                        >>
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.actions.OpenFileAction$OpenFileTask.importData(OpenFi
                        >> leAction.java:263)
                        >>    at
                        >>
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.actions.OpenFileAction$OpenFileTask.realRun(OpenFileA
                        >> ction.java:242)
                        >>    at
                        >>
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.PleaseWaitRunnable.doRealRun(PleaseWaitRunnable.j
                        >> ava:83)
                        >>    at
                        >>
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.PleaseWaitRunnable.run(PleaseWaitRunnable.java:12
                        >> 9)
                        >>    at
                        >> 
java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:441)
                        >> ...... more stack that goes into java api libraries
                        >> Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
                        >>    at
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.data.osm.Storage$1.getHashCode(Storage.java:317)
                        >>    at 
org.openstreetmap.josm.data.osm.Storage.getBucket(Storage.java:246)
                        >>    at 
org.openstreetmap.josm.data.osm.Storage.get(Storage.java:196)
                        >>    at
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmReader$Parser.intern(OsmReader.java:126)
                        >>    at
                        >> 
org.openstreetmap.josm.io.OsmReader$Parser.startElement(OsmReader.java:273)
                        >>    at
                        >>
                        >> 
com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.parsers.AbstractSAXParser.startElement(Ab
                        >> stractSAXParser.java:501)
                        >> .... goes further into xerces
                        >>
                        >> I don't know if the stacktrace helps, or if anyone 
else is having problems
                        >> with these files. Other .osm files open up fine on 
my system. I could
                        >> submit
                        >> this as a bug report to Josm with the sample file, 
but wanted to check if
                        >> anyone else is having problems as well.
                        >>
                        >> Adam
                        >>
                        >>
                        >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Sam Vekemans <
                        >> [email protected]>
                        >> wrote:
                        >>
                        >>
                        >>        Thanks,
                        >>        But its oodles of people who help with the 
process.
                        >>
                        >>        Speaking of which, i'll have the complete 
Ibycus 3.0 Garmin
                        >> MapSource
                        >>        IMG files available for download as single 
(grouped) .zip files
                        >>        available soon.
                        >>        It will still be at least a year before we 
get our map to that
                        >> level.
                        >>
                        >>        Sam
                        >>
                        >>
                        >>        <snip>
                        >>        For those who are interesting to have a look 
at sample datasets,
                        >> you
                        >> can download them from
                        >>
                        >>        OSM wiki 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Sample_Datasets
                        >> 
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#Sample_Datasets>
                        >>        NRCan ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub
                        >>
                        >>        Have fun (I hope!-)
                        >>
                        >>        Daniel
                        >>
                        >>
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