James,

Thank you for this. Comparing with what is already there and the new data is 
definitely a major first step.

For licensing, we are making sure to follow terms and conditions. So far, 
footprints that we obtained are all cleared for use.
Getting addresses is going to be part of the collection stage from participants 
so we it will be in the fields people can fill out.
Hopefully, it helps to complete what’s missing.

We will make available about 300 000 buildings for Ottawa soon. Dave and Mojgan 
suggested methodologies to do the import in segments.
We can look into those as well.

Bjenk

From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-26-16 7:55 AM
To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

For Gatineau, I've been manually tracing buildings via this project:

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/1
The yellow squares are the ones I completed in tracing the buildings, so during 
the review stage, the work could be compared to what Gatineau gives you to make 
sure everything is correct and not any missing buildings(old Satellite imagery 
data)
We could use
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/2
For Ottawa, I've not started on this yet, as Gatineau has a lot of buildings 
and I am not even near completing it.
One of the major issues will be merging with the existing data, that's why I 
think a tasking manager will be appropriate for the task. There is also the 
licensing issue(I think you've covered this in the past).
Gatineau currently has all address points in OSM so no need to combine them 
with the buildings. Ottawa does not due to licensing issues.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>> wrote:
Hi James,

We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and Gatineau. 
So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings file available 
through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000 building footprints.  
The other is a larger file with over 300 000 buildings in it. That one contains 
footprints that are not on OSM after a quick look through.

John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB open 
data portal so I am going to look into that.

We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give 
updates on how this is going.


Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004<tel:%28343%29%20998-3004>



From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com<mailto:james2...@gmail.com>]
Sent: July-18-16 4:58 PM
To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
<talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada


Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are there, 
as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license

On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>> wrote:
Dear members of the Board of Directors,

My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and 
Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.

I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated 
a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data 
crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.

We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting contributors to 
crowdsource information on non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and 
simple building attributes). The pilot project will focus on the 
Ottawa-Gatineau region.

We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from 
five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa 
and Gatineau.

In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul Norman. 
At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have done quite a 
lot of background research and planning since then (although much learning 
remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof of concept 
proposal and, from there, into the current project.

Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local 
(Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the 
coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.

This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are 
a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about (including the IT 
dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).

For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and much 
curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a reality but, 
as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess its potential from 
the perspective of a national statistical office.

One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is championing the 
innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen interest in this project. 
At some point, we would like to have an “institutional” meeting between 
Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am not quite sure in which shape and form 
this can take place). I am open to your suggestions.

I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who will 
follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on Talk-Ca.

I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on this 
project.

I will soon write more about the project!

Regards,



Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004<tel:%28343%29%20998-3004>




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