John has the gist of it. We will use a modified version of iD running off of a StatCan website.
A splash page will invite Canadians to participate with simple instructions and a link for when they want to start. We will also link to the OSM Canada and wiki. I will write back this PM about the buildings attributes we are looking for. Bjenk Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 10:26:46 -0400 From: john whelan <[email protected]> To: James <[email protected]> Cc: "Ellefsen, Bjenk \(STATCAN\)" <[email protected]>, Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada Message-ID: <caj-ex1e2bxxrjg0bsumoyw2p1hzec2b48-qgfwymkjy0zl2...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I think the Stats Canada project is evolving as Bjenk understands a little more about what he’d like and what we can do. My understanding is currently he’s looking getting hold of the City of Ottawa building outline data and making it available to OpenStreetMap without the current license restriction. My feeling is the tile approach was an early one which won’t work as well as he thought. Some of the attributes he’d like, you just can’t get from Bing aerial imagery. He’s asking for a more disciplined approach than we usually do using a more standardised set of tags. Currently fire stations for example are often tagged amenity=fire_station and sometimes they have a building=yes tag. I think he’d like these to be tagged building=civic to be more specific than building=yes. So a lot of clean up work needs to be done. He’s also asking for the building outline to be tagged with the address including postcode. Which is interesting as currently each node of store within a building might have part of the address. Postcodes often are not present. If we decide to strip out the address other than the unit number from the nodes within a building outline we’d probably save a little database space. By the way we need an agreement on what to use for unit addr:unit perhaps? I’m not certain if he realises that 5-10% of our mappers make 80+% of the edits, often using JOSM so as long as he gives the attributes he’d like and we accept them then I suspect much of the work is done. However I understand the plan is to have a customised version of iD. Stats Canada traditionally has a sample file which is made available to field workers. I would imagine they will try to do the same here. A file which contains a list of building outlines which they would like enriched. One problem I see arising is a new mapper mapping to the Stats Canada guide lines using iD changes one or more existing tags. I do a fair amount of validation in HOT and some newer mappers either completely ignore or misunderstand the instructions. I’ve heard two comments so far from professionals working in the GIS / Open data fields, one was they didn’t think it would work, Stats are asking too much. The second was more guarded they thought it could work and it would certainly be interesting to watch. I would tend to agree with the second one, it will certainly be interesting to watch. Cheerio John On 6 August 2016 at 09:45, James <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, that was when I wastracing buildings manually, Gatineau and Ottawa > boundaries should maybe be combined into one project as there is > duplication(overlap) due to how the task manager splits tiles into nice > squares > > On Aug 5, 2016 11:50 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 2016-08-05 11:08 PM, Laura O'Grady wrote: >> > I just noticed that there is a project for Ottawa in the Canadian >> > Tasking Manager [1] called, "#2 - Ottawa Building Update". >> >> This looks a little old - it was last used 8 months ago. It also has >> some unnecessary guidelines, such as adding the redundant (and possibly >> incorrect, if you accidentally go over over a boundary) >> addr:city=Ottawa. Ottawa and Gatineau should have boundary relations in >> place. >> >> Stewart >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20160806/1cbf4a68/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ------------------------------ End of Talk-ca Digest, Vol 102, Issue 21 **************************************** _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
