I think it has been mentioned that unfortunately a number of buildings in
Ottawa that were deleted already have some of the attributes that Stats
Canada are after.

I think step one is hands off any mapping of buildings for the moment in
Ottawa.  That unfortunately includes Stats crowd sourcing initiative until
the reverts are done.

*​Note to Bjenk ​can you put a sorry out of service notice up or something?*

​Note to Frederick can you let us know when they can continue?​

Step two will be restart the Stats Canada web site and data collection.

Step three will be for someone to communicate with the import forum
​etc ​
as per the wiki.  I think all our ducks and processes are lined up its just
a matter of explaining them.

Finally then I think restart the import process but very slowly and with
more care.

Stats Canada can work without the building import but there is
​adanger that new inexperienced mappers drawing building outlines in iD
will produce the sort of results both Pierre and I have seen in HOT and I
think that is to be avoided if at all possible.

Thanks for the update Frederick.

Cheerio John

On 18 Oct 2016 1:54 pm, "Frederik Ramm" <frede...@remote.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> On 10/17/2016 11:59 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> > The person responsible for cleaning up a poor revert should be the
> > person who ran it ;) it's only 30% complete and will run far into the
> > night in my time zone and I'll have to check on it after getting up. I'm
> > confident all will be fixed when you get up tomorrow morning.
> Unfortunately the import was larger than expected and the revert drags
> on. Meanwhile, a couple of accounts have been newly created by parties
> unknown ("addxy_imports", "ottawa_import") and these have (accidentally
> or purposefully) interfered with the revert, meaning that it will take
> even longer for me do this right.
> I would like to appeal to all involved parties to show some maturity.
> The import was in clear violation of established processes; it must be
> reverted, and then the community can - calmly and without any time
> pressure - decide what they want to do with the data.
> I haven't analysed the import in depth but I have seen a couple of
> examples where a perfectly well mapped building was wiped clean and
> replaced with one that was not at all better - this is clearly something
> we don't want to see in an import, it is a technical (or procedural)
> shortcoming that would definitely have been pointed out had there been a
> proper discussion beforehand.
> The requirement to talk about imports before you act is not an
> unnecessary bueraucratic hurdle; it is intended to avoid disappointment
> on all sides. An import that fears the broad daylight is probably one
> that should not be attempted at all!
> I should maybe have made that clearer in my initial email but I'm acting
> here as a member of the OSMF's data working group in response to a
> legitimate complaint, not as a German mapper seeking trouble. I
> sincerely ask everyone involved to keep calm and let the revert complete
> cleanly.
> I see that user LogicalViolinist has already found fields of endeavour
> outside of Canada for the time being.
> Bye
> Frederik
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