I agree as well, we should be careful not to delete the history of the OSM
features.

It does take longer in the dense areas of the city, however in the rural
areas it's not a concern since there just isn't any buildings what so ever.

Great comment & concern,

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*Denis Carriere*
*GIS Software & Systems Specialist*

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On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:17 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Pavel (about the guidelines being considered to be followed
> to a T, when guidelines by definition are what should be done)
>
> As for Ottawa relying on external sources to collect data/correct the
> data. Ottawa has a GIS team and surveyors and do said work internally. So
> they do own 100% of the data they are outputting.
>
> Pavel, I don't think it's a matter of keeping less accurate data vs not
> keeping it, it's more keeping the history attached to the object. If
> someone put many hours into initially making a map (say from 2008) and
> someone comes a long 8 years later and deletes it, you are no longer
> credited to the contribution of that object(I can see, now, why people were
> angry)
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Pavel Machek <pa...@ucw.cz> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> >       Commitment to follow the rules
>> >
>> > Please ensure that any documentation contains a commitment to follow the
>> > Import/Guidelines
>> > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines> and Automated
>> > Edits code of conduct
>> > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct>.
>> > These are non-negotiable parts of participation in OSM imports. The
>> > Ottawa import very definitely falls under the definition of an Automated
>> > Edit.
>>
>> Actually... I don't think this should be requirement. Import
>> guidelines are not a holy text, people should follow them, but...
>> what is next. Should they also include a poem explaining how
>> import guidelines are great and make openstreetmap more useful?
>>
>> > While it is generally considered that OGL-CA is acceptable to OSM, the
>> > lingering third-party waiver issue is troubling. As the City of Ottawa
>> > almost certainly relied on third parties to collect and correct the
>>
>> While you may find it troubling, requiring such waivers is going to
>> make imports impossible. (And openstreetmap useless).
>>
>> >       Data deletion
>> >
>> > While you will likely be able to show that some imported outlines are
>> > more accurate than existing tracings, please don't delete/overwrite
>> > community contributions. Also, under *no* circumstances delete
>>
>> So you suggest we keep less accurate data in openstreetmap,
>> because...?
>>
>>
>> Pavel
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