https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:train
Train does exist as a vehicle type As for cars: I think it would be motor_vehicle: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motor_vehicle I got the vehicle types from: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Transport_mode_restrictions On Oct 22, 2016 3:10 PM, wrote: > Could lanes work? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes > > Example: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes#Two_driving_directions > > What ever the train tag would be: > train:lanes:forward=no|yes > train:lanes:backwards=no|yes > Then for passenger cars would be opposite? > car:lanes:forward=yes|no > car:lanes:backwards=yes|no > > I'm not sure about this maybe Micheal has more insight on this > > On Oct 22, 2016 2:45 PM, "Mike Boos" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Michael for your reply > > >> Am 18.10.2016 um 03:52 schrieb Mike Boos: >> > Along on-road sections, the dedicated rail right-of-way moves from >> > centre-running to the outsides of the street at certain intersections. >> (A >> > by-product of some of the political compromises in route choices.) Does >> > anyone know of any examples of tracks going from the centre to the side >> of >> > the road with traffic lanes in OSM? I expect these are going to look >> messy. >> >> Look at any German, Austrian or Swiss city of your choice where every >> tram track is mapped as a single way in OSM (i.e. no tracks=2). I need >> more details (show us photos) to give a useful answer. >> > > Here's an example of an intersection that's largely complete: > https://twitter.com/mikeboos/status/789892670453723136 > The tracks on the right/behind of most of the photos are centre-running > between the two directions of car travel. Across the intersection, on the > left of the photos, one track changes sides with the travel lane so that it > lies between the sidewalk and the roadway. (The other track branches off > onto the perpendicular road.) > > > There are also portions of the line that will share track with a freight >> > corridor. From what I can tell, convention appears to be to tag it with >> the >> > heavier mode, i.e. railway=rail instead of railway=light_rail. However, >> the >> > use of the track for freight is quite small - at most one freight train >> > to/from Elmira uses the track at night, when light rail service won't be >> > operating. Should the track still be marked as 'rail' instead of >> > 'light_rail,' or should we attempt to have the tags represent the >> dominant >> > use? (At present, some of these are tagged as railway=construction, even >> > though the freight train has been consistently using it overnight. This >> > section is also largely complete.) >> >> Yes. If the track is still usable for freight trains (even if limited to >> certain hours), it is a normal railway track and therefore gets >> railway=rail. What you describe is called "Karlsuhe model" – don't >> confuse it with our tagging scheme at OSM. ;-) >> >> I assume, that some people of Grand River Transit have visited the >> German cities Karlsruhe and/or Kassel. :-) The first one has been >> operating a tram-train system for more than 40 years. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Stadtbahn >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassel_RegioTram >> > > I don't know if I'd characterize this as a "Karlsuhe model" train-tram - > the system is entirely within a single urban area (even if it does span two > adjacent cities), it just uses an existing rail corridor in some places. > Unlike the Karlsuhe system, the vehicles have only a single operating > voltage. > > >> Tag the tracks as they look like. Sections where tracks share space with >> cars [1] are railway=tram. Where the trams are physically separated from >> the traffic [2], it's a railway=light_rail. That's how tagging works in >> cities which only have *one* tram/light rail system. If the city has two >> or three (low-floor tram and high-floor light rail; some German cities), >> it becomes more difficult because we also try to get the systems >> distinguishable (there are use cases). But that is not important now and >> the reason why Germans discuss correct tagging of trams, light rails and >> subways at their OSM Forum over multiple pages and threads. :-) >> > > There are not really spaces shared with cars, (thank goodness) so the only > appropriate tag along roads is light_rail. > > > Further, there is gauntlet track to allow freight trains to pass station >> > platforms. Do we tag the track closest to the platform as >> > railway=light_rail and the outer track as railway=rail? There's some >> > discussion here on gauntlet tracks here that suggests this is the case >> in >> > Europe: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=29131 >> >> It is the case in Kaufungen near the city of Kassel which has a >> Karlsruhe-like tram-train system ("Regiotram"). >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haltestelle_Niederka >> ufungen_Mitte_02.JPG >> >> Yes, the track for heavy trains is a normal train track (railway=rail) >> while the outer ones can only be used by light rail vehicles due to the >> smaller structure gauge. Therefore the light rail track gets >> railway=light_rail. Because we map one way per track at the centerline >> of the track, there are two (in Kaufungen three) parallel tracks and all >> get railway:interlaced=yes. This is useful for routing engines. >> >> If there were up to date Mapillary photos, I could give more and better >> advice. (Mapillary photos by pedestrians are better because are located >> on the sidewalk) >> > > I think that makes sense. Here's an example of the gauntlet track at one > of the stations: https://twitter.com/Canardiain/status/768589656581 > 509122/photo/1 > > >> >> Greetings from Karlsruhe >> > > > > -- > Mike Boos, MASc. > [email protected] > 519-580-5804 > http://real.uwaterloo.ca/~mboos > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > >
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