Forward from a very long distribution list:

Hi J,

So you are not aware of any Indigenous communities engaged with OSM anywhere in Canada? It would be great if OSM could be introduced to Indigenous community members so they can help define a direction.  Since you have contacts, can you help doing introductions?  I am assuming you are part of the OSM community already?   How would you propose creating a working group?

Also can we move this discussion to the OSM Canada mailing list?  There is an active discussion on the building initiative there.  Maybe others know about Indigenous activities already?


On 2018-01-26 02:53 PM, J. Hackett wrote:

Hi everyone,

I brought up a few issues surrounding Indigenous engagement at the meeting in July.

There still remains no engagement with Indigenous communities whatsoever. It is pertinent that if you want to involve the Indigenous demographic that an Indigenous Working Group be established to develop, plan, and engage with communities in the spirit of truth and reconciliqtion, especially in light of the recent TRC.

The 2018 Indigenous Mapping Workshop will be hosted in Montreal. It might provide a good venue to truly get the conversation/movement going forward.

Our tech partners, Google, Esri Canada, and Mapbox, are working with us to develop geospatial capacity building within communities; therefore, it could be a good opportunity to bridge efforts with the 100+ communities that will attend the event.

Feel free to reach out to me if there is interest in any partnership with our programming in Montreal, QC.

Thanks!


On Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 14:04 Jonathan Brown, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I’m a newbie to the wiki and OSM mapathon process. I’m
    interested in connecting the open data to the OSM and wiki
    process that can be used by K-12 and postsecondary students to
    support municipal and regional planning and implementation of
    sustainable development goals. Alessandro pointed to the Philly
    Fresh Food Mapper as a good example of using OSM to address the
    challenge of food security at the local level:
    https://www.geovista.psu.edu/phillyfood/

    The question is how to sustain these projects once the students
    have graduated. I have cced Steve Quinn who provided the GIS/OSM
    expertise for that crowdsourcing/citizen science project. He is
    still active in organizing mapathon events on Twitter:
    https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SterlingGIS

    I have been asked for simple guides that can be used be teachers
    that they can incorporate into their lesson plans and that align
    with the strategic goals of the K-12 education system they work
    within. It would be very helpful if the education wiki included
    posters that could be shared with principals, teachers and
    community NGO agencies partnering on an event that uses the
    BC2020i framework.

    Here is an example of how a working team at Brock University put
    together resources for a high school data management
    prerequisite course:
    https://brocku.ca/cmt/mdm4u/asprojects/index.html. I noticed
    that the working group did a call out to Joel Yan, Statistics
    Canada, for the work he did on making Canadian data available;
    and to Stephen Brown, Professor of Statistics at Waterloo, for
    his suggestions on restructuring each activity. Professor Andrew
    Skelton has taken it one step further by including spatial
    analysis with his MDM4U Open Data project in collaboration with
    his GIS colleagues: https://mathstat.uoguelph.ca/outreach/opendata

    It would be good to see how Josée-Anne Langlois work in the
    north with open source mapping tools like GGIS and OSM (see
    below) could be combined with open data from the provincial and
    federal open data catalogues to create a community profile that
    is accessible and engaging for community partners.

    Jonathan

    *From: *Mikel Maron <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Friday, January 26, 2018 10:37 AM
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    *Subject: *Re: Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017

    Would love to discuss what's next soon. Anyone want to take the
    lead on setting up a time to sync up?

    On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:45 PM, Matthew Darwin
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        Does anyone have updates other than the great update from
        Alessandro?  In addition to using the CA-Talk mailing list,
        I would suggest adding updates to the wiki page.

        Matthew Darwin

        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

        http://www.mdarwin.ca

        On 2017-12-21 01:51 PM, Mikel Maron wrote:

            Thank you Alessandro for the full update and congrats to
            all for the great start. Excited to see what's coming in
            2018.

            My suggestion for communication and coordination is to
            use OSM forums as much as feasible.

            * Post this update as an OpenStreetMap Diary
            http://www.openstreetmap.org/diary

            * Share a link to the update, and everyone subscribe and
            undertake discussion on the talk-ca mailing list
            https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

            * If there are topics which can't be discussed
            completely openly, let's also have another mailing list
            with the group on this email.

            Yes, it's a little rough on the lists some times, but
            the volume is low, and the transparency and
            accessibility will be a big boost to the project.

            -Mikel

            On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Alasia, Alessandro
            (STATCAN) <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Dear all,

                It is just over three months since the *Building
                Canada 2020* workshop took place and the initiative
                was launched, as such, I thought I would provide an
                update on what has occurred on our end. My first
                comment is that I am impressed by the amount of work
                that has been done and the ideas that have been
                generated and shared (and we are only at “month
                3”!). About 50,000 buildings polygons were added to
                the OSM map of Canada since we met.

                Two more general comments (before providing more
                details on specific project/activities):

                1.*Communication:*A lot of work has been done on the
                *project’s wiki page* (and I think a lot more is
                upcoming!). Have a look and feel free to edit/add or
                suggest content. For the purpose of communications,
                it is important and useful to keep a record of all
                developments, resources, and initiatives on this
                page. Now would be a good opportunity to update the
                contact list (at least with reference to your
                institution). *Have a look at the amazing work that
                is done in Canada and internationally with building
                data on OSM and other open data!! - *Wiki page:
                
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020

                2.*Governance and coordination*: Hopefully, much of
                the projects/activities are self-governing but some
                coordination and communication mechanism is needed.
                I can provide periodic email updates, but I think it
                would be more ideal for all if a more effective
                communication mechanism is found (simple, open,
                inclusive). My questions on this matter:

                a.Any suggestion? (Google discussion group? Or
                something else very simple and open?)

                b.*Anybody who wants to take the lead on this?*A
                grad student from some of the universities could do
                a fantastic work on this, I am sure J

                Below are more details on specific projects and
                activities that took place, are starting, or are
                upcoming. Having a mechanism that enhances our
                communication and coordination on these activities
                would be fantastic.

                A final note from me: A special *thanks to Tim
                Elrick*, who in a nice presentation (see link below)
                on this initiative suggested the tag “*BC2020i*”,
                with an “i” for “initiative” (instead of “BC2020”).
                I took the liberty to adopt it in this email (and
                for the future J!). This is a small but significant
                improvement as the tag BC2020 is associated with
                other entities.

                *New projects and initiatives*

                ·*OSMGeoWeek Mapathons*:  Much content was added to
                OSM during GeoWeek thanks to the remarkable work
                done by nearly 200 mappers/researchers/academics in
                several universities/colleges across Canada, and to
                the coordination and support provided by Julia
                Conzon (see links to the resources/results,
                including validation tool, on the project’s Wiki
                page). Hopefully this effort will continue. There
                are other mapathons currently under discussion, thus
                continuing some coordination on this would be fantastic.

                ·*NRCan is working on a methodology to extract
                building footprints, including topographic elevation
                and height attributes, from LiDAR:*The objective of
                this work is to have a production system implemented
                by March 2018 and to provide this new Product on
                Open Maps Canada (i.e., importing to OSM should be
                possible!). The areas covered are those for which
                Open Data LiDAR coverage is currently available
                (see: http://open.canada.ca/en/open-maps). The
                contact person for this project is Pierre Gravel
                (NRCan/RNCan): [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>

                ·*NRCan has initiated a project on collaborative
                mapping of buildings in the North:*This project will
                be implemented with open source mapping tools
                developed during the StatCan crowdsourcing pilot
                project. The contact person for this project is
                Josée-Anne Langlois ([email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>)

                ·*A group in the Niagara Region is now active in
                bringing BC2020i to high schools*: Summary of the
                initiative - “*Open Data in Education: What Problem
                Do You Want to Solve?”* The primary goal is to
                leverage *open source resources and digital tools*
                to create opportunities for students to solve
                real-world problems. A secondary goal is to
                stimulate students to think critically about the
                potential impact of digital infrastructure on
                remote, rural and urban communities. Through
                experiential learning outside the classroom,
                students will use mobile devises to map and analyze
                real-time data combined with open data from
                government catalogues to address a municipal and/or
                regional policy challenge (e.g., climate change,
                poverty reduction (affordable housing/mental
                health/education) and adapting to automation in the
                new economy). The contact person is Johnathan Brown:
                [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

                ·*DEIL at StatCan*: We are discussing internally a
                *Crowdsourcing Phase II project*, which we hope to
                start in the coming fiscal. We are looking at
                options to improving monitoring tools (and
                discussing with HOT developers of OSM Analytics
                about how to improve and increase geometries for
                standard geographies of Canada on that tool). We are
                *exploring* *QGIS tools (and other open source
                tools)* and would be very interested in doing
                collaborative work with anybody interested
                developing**open source data processing or
                analytical tools for OSM data on buildings. Finally,
                we are discussing use of *OSM tools/data with
                colleagues at the OECD *(Secretariat and delegates
                from different countries), for international
                comparative housing statistics analysis on global
                open data platforms. The contacts for DEIL are Jean
                Le Moullec and myself: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>,
                [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>

                *Presentations *(Please share your presentation on
                BC2020i …. the initiative and all the material on
                the wiki page is yours to present!)

                ·Jean Le Moullec, presented at McGill for OSMGeoWeek
                (ppt available from Jean)

                ·Tim Elrick, Geographic Information Centre (GIC),
                McGill (presentation available at:
                
https://www.slideshare.net/Geomatique2009/tim-elrick-mcgill-gic-creating-open-data-the-building-canada-2020-initiative)

                ·Jonathan Brown presented BC2020i at Niagara Region
                workshop (and is presenting at several other
                regional meetings).

                ·Upcoming: Alessandro Alasia will present BC2020i
                (via teleconference) at FOSS4G-IT 2018, as the
                Italian OSM community seems to follow BC2020i with
                interest.

                *Conclusions:*This is amazing work! And who knows,
                there might be some major breakthrough that will get
                all buildings across Canada mapped on OSM by 2019 J!
                Innovation happens when setting “unrealistic” goals!

                Again, I would like to encourage everyone to take
                some time to think on ways to improve communication
                and coordination, so that the flow of information
                for ongoing and upcoming initiatives is not delayed
                in any way. If you have a solution, please bring it
                forward and implement it.

                Have a Great Holiday Season,

                Alessandro and DEIL Team

                PS. I hope I did not miss anybody from the
                distribution list. Please share with your network
                and interested people. Thanks.

                Alessandro Alasia
                Chief | Chef

                Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab
                pour l’exploration et l’intégration de données (LEID)

                Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des
                Projets Spéciaux sur les entreprises

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