the only expanded version of the city name was in french, and on wikipedia: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sault-Sainte-Marie_(Ontario)
Maybe because people(English) have trouble spelling "Sainte"? On Feb 16, 2018 5:38 PM, "Tristan Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm going to make here to the unpopular argument that in OSM tagging "St." > should always be written as "Saint". > > I know that you will never see "Sault Sainte Marie" on a sign, map or > official document and that seeing it written like that looks weird and even > wrong to local residents. In much the same way when I started editing OSM, > "Pine Street" looked weird, even wrong, to me. After all, street suffixes > are abbreviated on every sign and map; even when they are referenced in > articles. I have since come to accept and embrace the unabbreviated street > suffix, even to the point writing them out in full in my day-to-day life, > such as when I enter in my home address. I think we can all agree that > there is nothing incorrect about Maple Boulevard, and by extension that an > abbreviation's ubiquity does not in and of itself make the full version > incorrect. > > There are a lot of streets that begin with Saint. In one neighbourhood of > Niagara Falls, for example, there is (using the names recognised by Canada > Post) a Saint Marys Avenue, St. John St, St Paul Avenue, St Patrick Avenue, > St. Peter Avenue, and Saint George Avenue. I doubt that whoever named > those streets intended for that specific combination of St/St./Saint and I > can be certain that the abbreviations were merely ever there out of > convenience, one that's made obsolete by digital maps not needing to cram a > bunch of street names onto limited space. I find it hard to see anybody > having a problem with beginning all six of these names with "Saint". > > The "St" abbreviation may particularly problematic for data consumers as > it could mean Street, Saint, or if you check out the Wikipedia > disambiguation page, dozens of other things. Sure it's obvious to a human > that there is no city called Street Thomas, but a computer might have a bit > of trouble there. And don't get me started on the absurdity that St is a > contraction, not an abbreviation. > > I'm not going to rush out and change any existing tagging but I think this > is one instance where rational thought needs to override tradition. > > From: OSM Volunteer stevea <[email protected]> > Sent: February 16, 2018 4:03 PM > To: Jarek Piórkowski; talk-ca > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names > > > I stand corrected, thank you everybody. > > BTW I do my best not to abbreviate thinks like "DC" for District of > Columbia, but I now better understand that "St." in many cases has now > truly become the official name, abbreviation included. > > SteveA > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists. > openstreetmap.org%2Flistinfo%2Ftalk-ca&data=02%7C01%7C% > 7C0929b2c013ed48ddd99b08d57580cc04%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636544118392215285&sdata=RLRrzWsO83vlhjicXTPgQumstpl4u% > 2FyhY3ciiFEmAuU%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >
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