Hi, Keith. I’m in the same predicament. The OSM community tell me that it may be possible, but not in the short run. We are using the BC2020i framework for our March 29 event that Durham Region’s Open Data folks are hosting. One idea is to have the students add trees to OSM. For accessibility, you should see what Clifford Snow is doing with postsecondary students from the the Taskar Centre.
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Re: Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work (keith hartley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:31:44 -0600 From: keith hartley <keith.a.hart...@gmail.com> To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work Message-ID: <cap9rf0ka0bpefdhhwwukkk7n9cs56tyqbqcnydsooeyjwxp...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi OSM'ers I am working on adding buildings to OSM in Manitoba and have a few questions. I was just offered an updated building footprint and address shape file from the City of Brandon, and agreement that it can be used in OSM. I understand that the license needs to be compliant with the OSMs of course, and will email the licensing group. The City uses a open data license similar to Ottawa's (can be seen here http://opengov.brandon.ca/ terms.aspx) I can get written consent in an email if need be as well. Currently the buildings are from the Manitoba land initiative website (MLI) and I can see that the city of Brandon Data is much more accurate (in both attributes and position) I will review the current data. Is there anything else I should be doing before I upload this? The plan is to have high school students look at the map and using walking maps or equivalent data capture (android app) to find what is accessible for people with mobility issues around their schools. I'll write the results on a wiki to show our successes. Anyone else have good ideas how to get students to add to the map? (with teacher oversight of course!) Cheers, Keith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180228/493b8990/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:51:34 -0500 From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> To: keith hartley <keith.a.hart...@gmail.com> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work Message-ID: <CAJ-Ex1HfCXUxhoOfQkCt9SxFL_8=6-swxx0b-cfkd95pa5k...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Similar to does not mean the same unless it is the TB Open Data license but I suspect it predates that one. Given that Stats Canada has said it will make the data available through the Federal Government's Open Data portal real soon now I suspect that an email from the city even to yourself would be acceptable. There is an import process speak nicely to James and he may be kind enough to handhold you through it. The LWG will give an opinion on the license but it could take some considerable time to do so. The import needs to be approved by a the local community. In Ottawa two or three local mappers gathered together over coffee to approve it. I think there were more than three. Given your suspected time frames its probably best to document the import fairly quickly. That way it allows for those mappers who feel imports are terrible to have their say. Cheerio John On 28 February 2018 at 10:31, keith hartley <keith.a.hart...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi OSM'ers > > I am working on adding buildings to OSM in Manitoba and have a few > questions. I was just offered an updated building footprint and address > shape file from the City of Brandon, and agreement that it can be used in > OSM. I understand that the license needs to be compliant with the OSMs of > course, and will email the licensing group. The City uses a open data > license similar to Ottawa's (can be seen here > http://opengov.brandon.ca/terms.aspx) I can get written consent in an > email if need be as well. Currently the buildings are from the Manitoba > land initiative website (MLI) and I can see that the city of Brandon Data > is much more accurate (in both attributes and position) I will review the > current data. Is there anything else I should be doing before I upload > this? > > The plan is to have high school students look at the map and using walking > maps or equivalent data capture (android app) to find what is accessible > for people with mobility issues around their schools. I'll write the > results on a wiki to show our successes. Anyone else have good ideas how to > get students to add to the map? (with teacher oversight of course!) > > Cheers, > Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180228/9c5ec8c2/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:59:13 -0500 From: James <james2...@gmail.com> To: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> Cc: keith hartley <keith.a.hart...@gmail.com>, Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work Message-ID: <cank4qi_gdux4-h6xeyehcnjoa8jgvij0vrkup8v8vtt5gsa...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Before Scruss comes out and says it: 1. Wiki documentation 2. You need to get LWG to approve license as it's not a standard license. Explicit permission can certainly help our case. After license is approved we could move on to approval of data quality, then submit it for revue on import list(p.s. if it's crappy data they are going to tell you about how it's crappy) After all that(maybe 1-2 years later) can we move on to the serving of data via a tasking manager and start the import On Feb 28, 2018 11:54 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Similar to does not mean the same unless it is the TB Open Data license > but I suspect it predates that one. Given that Stats Canada has said it > will make the data available through the Federal Government's Open Data > portal real soon now I suspect that an email from the city even to yourself > would be acceptable. > > There is an import process speak nicely to James and he may be kind enough > to handhold you through it. > > The LWG will give an opinion on the license but it could take some > considerable time to do so. > > The import needs to be approved by a the local community. In Ottawa two > or three local mappers gathered together over coffee to approve it. I > think there were more than three. > > Given your suspected time frames its probably best to document the import > fairly quickly. That way it allows for those mappers who feel imports are > terrible to have their say. > > Cheerio John > > On 28 February 2018 at 10:31, keith hartley <keith.a.hart...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi OSM'ers >> >> I am working on adding buildings to OSM in Manitoba and have a few >> questions. I was just offered an updated building footprint and address >> shape file from the City of Brandon, and agreement that it can be used in >> OSM. I understand that the license needs to be compliant with the OSMs of >> course, and will email the licensing group. The City uses a open data >> license similar to Ottawa's (can be seen here >> http://opengov.brandon.ca/terms.aspx) I can get written consent in an >> email if need be as well. Currently the buildings are from the Manitoba >> land initiative website (MLI) and I can see that the city of Brandon Data >> is much more accurate (in both attributes and position) I will review the >> current data. Is there anything else I should be doing before I upload >> this? >> >> The plan is to have high school students look at the map and using >> walking maps or equivalent data capture (android app) to find what is >> accessible for people with mobility issues around their schools. I'll write >> the results on a wiki to show our successes. Anyone else have good ideas >> how to get students to add to the map? (with teacher oversight of course!) >> >> Cheers, >> Keith >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20180228/bca138ba/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 12:06:27 -0600 From: keith hartley <keith.a.hart...@gmail.com> To: James <james2...@gmail.com> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Manitoba buildings, addresses and high school work Message-ID: <CAP9rf0knFjGizB9tQXLHsM1CYXEGHyB=hzr1muitq5xvewy...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" More intriguing with Brandon, there's tons of buildings already there from the MLI source... dated from 2011, how did they get there? I emailed the user to get more info - but they were last mapping 5 years ago! For the purposes of the high school work - I could use the current building footprints, if we're waiting for a year - any good ideas how to get students to add if a building is accessible/not accessible? After I can work though the process similar to what James has said, luckily, unlike Ottawa, Brandon is a much smaller place. I have a few other cities that we might be able to work with once I have a solid process set up. Rural Manitoba also poses a big challenge - Specially as we have two different addressing systems - But that's another email rant. On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:59 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Before Scruss comes out and says it: > 1. Wiki documentation > 2. You need to get LWG to approve license as it's not a standard license. > Explicit permission can certainly help our case. > > After license is approved we could move on to approval of data quality, > then submit it for revue on import list(p.s. if it's crappy data they are > going to tell you about how it's crappy) > > After all that(maybe 1-2 years later) can we move on to the serving of > data via a tasking manager and start the import > > On Feb 28, 2018 11:54 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Similar to does not mean the same unless it is the TB Open Data license >> but I suspect it predates that one. Given that Stats Canada has said it >> will make the data available through the Federal Government's Open Data >> portal real soon now I suspect that an email from the city even to yourself >> would be acceptable. >> >> There is an import process speak nicely to James and he may be kind >> enough to handhold you through it. >> >> The LWG will give an opinion on the license but it could take some >> considerable time to do so. >> >> The import needs to be approved by a the local community. In Ottawa two >> or three local mappers gathered together over coffee to approve it. I >> think there were more than three. >> >> Given your suspected time frames its probably best to document the import >> fairly quickly. That way it allows for those mappers who feel imports are >> terrible to have their say. >> >> Cheerio John >> >> On 28 February 2018 at 10:31, keith hartley <keith.a.hart...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi OSM'ers >>> >>> I am working on adding buildings to OSM in Manitoba and have a few >>> questions. I was just offered an updated building footprint and address >>> shape file from the City of Brandon, and agreement that it can be used in >>> OSM. I understand that the license needs to be compliant with the OSMs of >>> course, and will email the licensing group. The City uses a open data >>> license similar to Ottawa's (can be seen here >>> http://opengov.brandon.ca/terms.aspx) I can get written consent in an >>> email if need be as well. Currently the buildings are from the Manitoba >>> land initiative website (MLI) and I can see that the city of Brandon Data >>> is much more accurate (in both attributes and position) I will review the >>> current data. Is there anything else I should be doing before I upload >>> this? >>> >>> The plan is to have high school students look at the map and using >>> walking maps or equivalent data capture (android app) to find what is >>> accessible for people with mobility issues around their schools. I'll write >>> the results on a wiki to show our successes. Anyone else have good ideas >>> how to get students to add to the map? (with teacher oversight of course!) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Keith >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-ca mailing list >>> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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