Could you update the wiki to include these instructions please. Thanks John
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:53, Yaro Shkvorets <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > >> Traditionally or the party line is if its been mapped already then to > preserve the history you either leave it alone or manually correct it. > Manually correcting it is very time consuming. Often the decision is made > to leave the existing way in the map. > > JOSM offers very convenient way to do it called "Replace geometry". Select > both ways, old and new, press Ctrl-Shift-G, merge any conflicting tags and > you preserve the history, tags and have new improved outline in a couple of > clicks. > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:30 PM john whelan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And that is a problem with imports. Traditionally or the party line is >> if its been mapped already then to preserve the history you either leave it >> alone or manually correct it. Manually correcting it is very time >> consuming. Often the decision is made to leave the existing way in the map. >> >> I'm not going to say one method is correct over the other but the least >> contentious is to add only things are are not there already. >> >> Cheerio John >> >> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:17, Yaro Shkvorets <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Nate, >>> I'll change the project name to reflect that the import is on hold. As a >>> local mapper, if you want to take a lead on the Toronto import that'd be >>> great. >>> I did review some of DannyMcD's edits last night >>> (Mississauga-Brampton-Vaughan) and to be honest was rather disappointed >>> with the quality. It appears Danny chose to import only new buildings (i.e. >>> residential homes mostly), leaving most of the existing hand-traced >>> non-residential building outlines in OSM untouched. That's unfortunate, the >>> dataset offers some really good data and leaving half of it behind makes it >>> more difficult to revisit in the future. >>> In my edits (Markham-Scarborough-East York) I was aiming to replace as >>> many existing geometries with outlines from the import as possible. I think >>> that's what we should be trying to do going forward. >>> Looking forward to your comments and discussion. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:07 PM Nate Wessel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've just joined the talk-ca list, so please accept my apologies for >>>> not addressing this list earlier. I'm happy to take this thread off the >>>> imports list for now and onto talk-ca until things are ready to begin >>>> again. The next person to reply can please feel free to remove that email >>>> if they agree. >>>> >>>> I've just made a note on the draft import plan wiki page noting that >>>> the import has been stopped: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Canada_Stats_Canada_Building_Outlines_Import/Plan >>>> >>>> I would really appreciate it if the person with admin access to the >>>> tasking manager projects could please take those offline for the moment, or >>>> perhaps place them in a validation-only mode if that's possible. >>>> >>>> Like I said in my last email, which perhaps didn't make it to the >>>> talk-ca list ( >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2019-January/005886.html) >>>> I'm now proposing that we leave the data that has already been imported and >>>> enter a phase of thorough validation on that data. >>>> >>>> My plan, over the next several days, is to do a general survey of the >>>> quality of the data that has been imported so far and make a list of >>>> systematic issues I see that should be addressed before we can consider >>>> moving forward again. I'll add those comments to the conversation in >>>> talk-ca and on the wiki page (link above), as I feel is appropriate. As I >>>> said before, I'm of the mind that this import did not get adequate review >>>> or approval and did not follow all the import guidelines. I think therefore >>>> we need to take stock, cross the t's, dot the i's, and move this thing back >>>> toward where it needs to be. Step one is a thoroughly documented wiki page >>>> outlining the proposal and responding to everything required in the import >>>> guidelines. >>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines >>>> >>>> I know there are people excited about this import, and people who are >>>> eager to get back to work bringing buildings in, but I think everyone will >>>> be happier in the end if we take the time to do this right. We don't need >>>> to stop forever - we just need to stop until we get things right. I >>>> sincerely respect the good intentions of everyone involved in this and I >>>> hope we can all work together to make OSM a map known for it's coverage AND >>>> it's quality. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Nate Wessel >>>> Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning >>>> NateWessel.com <http://natewessel.com> >>>> >>>> On 1/17/19 9:05 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: >>>> >>>> The thread link is: >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2019-January/005878.html >>>> >>>> SteveA >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards, >>> Yaro Shkvorets >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-ca mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>> >> > > -- > Best Regards, > Yaro Shkvorets >
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