Dear Nicolas, Right now I am writing a message to Cecilia Diaz from ONEMI (the technical contact mentioned at the UN page). I will explain her everything about what we are doing and how they can benefit of it.
Cheers, Julio Costa On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:59 PM, nicolas chavent <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear Julio and all- > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Julio, (it's easier for me to write in English, since you >> understand) >> >> David writes: >> >> "Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use >> in Chile as well. " >> >> My understanding, in this context, is that "wider use" would likely >> include tracing by OSM. >> (But no specific imagery is mentioned) >> >> It would probably be best to ask him (and/or specific imagery sources) for >> clarification, and also how the source image would be available. >> > > Agree this still needs to be clarified- > >> >> >> Getting in touch with Chile institutions ONEMI and SNIT would certainly be >> a good thing ("any effort should be centred on their needs and >> guidance"). I see there is a contact at ONEMI for the Charter at: >> >> >> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile >> > > If not already done, it's fundamental to push the OSM data into the hands > of those entities, the way it has been pushed in the hands of international > responding entities and then explore the potential for wider cooperation- > > >> >> I have heard that Chile has now decided to accept the help of the >> international community. This would be a way people from abroad could >> contribute, along with fellow Chile citizens, like those whose effort you >> are organising. >> >> Best, >> >> Jean-Guilhem >> > > > > Best > Nicolas. > > >> >> Julio Costa Zambelli a écrit : >> >> (In English after the break...) >> >> Estimado Jean-Guilhem, >> >> En la misma linea de las preguntas de Mikel (No me quedo del todo claro >> con la respuesta de David), ¿Tienes alguna claridad sobre la liberación de >> la licencia de GeoEye una vez que sus imágenes estén disponibles? >> (Obviamente la frase: "5 disasters since Haiti and none of them received >> the same attention and dedication as Haiti" me preocupa) >> >> El resto de las imágenes ya disponibles están bien, pero la alta >> resolución es muy necesaria para avanzar en el trazado y etiquetado de todos >> los pueblos de la zona afectada. >> >> Gracias todos por su ayuda y cooperación. >> >> Saludos, >> >> Julio Costa >> OpenStreetMap Chile >> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ >> >> ##ENGLISH## >> >> Dear Jean-Guilhem, >> >> In the same line of Mikels questions (I did not see it clear on Davids >> response), Are you clear on the liberation of GeoEyes data license once >> their imagery is available? (Obviously the phrase "5 disasters since >> Haiti and none of them received the same attention and dedication as Haiti" >> concerns me) >> >> The already available images are alright, but high resolution imagery is >> quite necessary to trace and tag all the towns on the affected area. >> >> Thank you all for your help and cooperation. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Julio Costa >> OpenStreetMap Chile >> http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hola, >>> >>> Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver >>> http://www.un-spider.org/chile >>> y >>> >>> http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile >>> para detalles. >>> >>> Saludos, >>> >>> Jean-Guilhem >>> >>> >>> -------- Message original -------- Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile >>> Date : >>> Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100 De : David Stevens >>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Répondre à : >>> [email protected] Pour : Mikel Maron >>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Copie à : >>> Références : >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> >>> Mikel, >>> >>> I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal. >>> >>> First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme that has >>> been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to help all countries as >>> well as regional and international organisations to access and use >>> space-based information. It is an interesting mandate because it means >>> ensuring access and use as well as building capacity. We don't produce maps. >>> We ensure end users and their partners are able to do it and use it for >>> decision making. The fact we have the mandate means we work closely with the >>> government institutions responsible for emergency response and disaster risk >>> management and also with partners supporting these end users. More >>> importantly after the response phase is gone and the media chasers have >>> packed their bags and gone after another spotlight we continue working with >>> the Government as in the case in Haiti: our work begins now as we help the >>> Civil Protection Agency rebuild and get ready including for the next >>> hurricane season. >>> >>> We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the International >>> Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in an emergency response we >>> activate the International Charter as has been the case for both Haiti and >>> Chile. >>> >>> The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the end >>> products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available for free as >>> was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and the Haiti earthquake. >>> We are working to ensure that imagery becomes a bit more widely available >>> and not only for mega disasters. We have been involved and supported 5 >>> disasters since Haiti and none of them received the same attention and >>> dedication as Haiti. >>> >>> Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use >>> in Chile as well. We have updated the info on what is being made available >>> on our webpage >>> >>> http://www.un-spider.org/chile >>> >>> Two requests >>> >>> First if the crisismapper community could help us include info on >>> available imagery and geospatial data that would help. I know there are >>> several other portals as well with similar info but for sure our end users >>> do access the UN-SPIDER Knowledge Portal first. Please feel free to >>> replicate the info we have on other portals as well. We would appreciate a >>> link to our portal. And we will ensure we include a link to the other >>> portals. Please send us any info to include to the following e-mail: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Then regarding the mapping support for Chile we are open for suggestions. >>> In Chile there are strong and efficient government institutions in place, >>> both ONEMI and SNIT, and any effort should be centred on their needs and >>> guidance. >>> >>> One last useful info: UN-SPIDER is implemented by the United Nations >>> Office for Outer Space Affairs. We are part of the UN Secretariat and we are >>> the UN Office responsible for promoting the access and use of space-based >>> technologies and solutions. Space is our business and our mandate. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David >>> >>> David Stevens >>> Programme Coordinator >>> UN-SPIDER >>> United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs >>> Vienna - Austria >>> Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount >>> Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 - E-Mail [email protected] >>> >>> On 28 February 2010 06:25, Mikel Maron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Colleagues >>>> >>>> Can we replicate the true environment of sharing that began in the >>>> response to Haiti? >>>> >>>> We are all at ready to respond once we hear the needs for Chile. OSM is >>>> ready to map, CrisisCamps are planned, there is an OSM Chile community who >>>> we are trying to get through to. >>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake >>>> >>>> Simply, we need imagery we can use. I was hoping this would be an issue >>>> we all could discuss in the next few months, but now the need is urgent. >>>> The basic question ... will licensing allow use of the raw imagery data >>>> for response? >>>> >>>> * DigitalGlobe, GeoEye: Are acquisitions planned yet? Will license terms >>>> be dropped again? >>>> >>>> * Google: If you post imagery, can you make sure OSM has an exception to >>>> the non-commercial clause? >>>> >>>> * UN Charter: Any possibility of sharing imagery with volunteer groups? >>>> >>>> * Chris Schmidt/Schuyler Erle: Would you be ready to process imagery >>>> again? >>>> >>>> All ... any other sources or thoughts? >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Mikel >>>> >>>> == Mikel Maron == >>>> +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron >>>> http://mapkibera.org/ >>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David STEVENS >>> Vienna - Austria >>> skype: tazarkount >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > > > -- > Nicolas Chavent > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti > Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70 > Email: [email protected] > Skype: c_nicolas > >
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