[Talk-cl] [Fwd: Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile]

[Jean-Guilhem Cailton]

Forwarding to Chile OSM list.

Extract :*

Areas con prioridad según ONEMI el 2 de marzo 2010
/
"Priority Areas as informed by ONEMI on 2 March 2010*

   * 1.- Constitución: -72,40964 -35,33523
   * 2.- Dichato: -72,93464 -36,54807
   * 3.- Tomé: -72,95417 -36,6146
   * 4.- Talcahuano: -73,12208 -36,71731
   * 5.- Pichilemu: -72,01315 -34,4085
   * 6.- Llolleo: -71,61046 -33,61521
   * 7.- Concepción: -73,05592 -36,82244
   * 8.- Talca: -71,69648 -34,10332
   * 9.- Juan Fernández: -78,64529 -33,6483"


Jean-Guilhem

-------- Message original --------
Sujet :         Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile
Date :  Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:27:53 +0100
De :    David Stevens <tazarko...@gmail.com>
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<fl...@google.com>, Chris Nicholas <chrisgnicho...@att.net>, Walter 
Svekla <wsve...@gmail.com>, Christiaan Adams <csad...@google.com>, Jeff 
Martin <jeffmar...@google.com>, Lars Bromley <lbrom...@aaas.org>, John 
Crowley <bostonce...@gmail.com>, "sg...@worldbank.org" 
<sg...@worldbank.org>, Miller Steve <miller.st...@geoeye.com>, 
ul...@un.org, Schuyler Erle <schuy...@nocat.net>, Christopher Schmidt 
<crschm...@metacarta.com>, "Patrick Meier (The Fletcher School)" 
<patrick.me...@tufts.edu>, Andrew Turner <ajtur...@highearthorbit.com>, 
Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com>
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Mikel and colleagues

Chile is back on-line. And as I mentioned in my e-mail we should be 
coordinating directly with them all efforts. I think this is a very good 
opportunity for the mapping community to work directly with the end 
users. Please copy me on emails if you need our inputs as well 
(david.stev...@unoosa.org <mailto:david.stev...@unoosa.org>).

We have updated the corresponding UN-SPIDER webpage with contact points 
in Chile and also the latest priority areas for imagery tasking as put 
forward by ONEMI.

http://www.un-spider.org/chile

As for going further then what we have today (value added products for 
most disasters and open access when there is a mega mega disasters to a 
situation when we can have and use the primary data for any disaster) we 
are working on this. It will take time though.

Regards

David Stevens
Programme Coordinator
UN-SPIDER
United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
Vienna - Austria
Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount
Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 -  E-Mail david.stev...@unoosa.org 
<mailto:david.stev...@unoosa.org>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Mikel Maron* <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com <mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com>>
Date: 2 March 2010 04:40
Subject: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile
To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com <mailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com>

David,

Thanks very much for giving a clear picture of the role of UNOOSA and 
the Disaster Charter.

Longer term questions ... you say the charter only makes end products 
available? Does it not make imagery data available to Charter members? 
If so, how then could an organization like OSM or CrisisMappers or 
CrisisCamp take part in the Charter ... is there any facility open to 
us? Good to hear that there is work to make imagery more open, please 
let me know how OSM can help advocate for that.

Also, glad to hear that Chile may also see wider availability of 
imagery. OSM and volunteer communities are ready to help, and any 
insights into what the government of Chile needs are welcome. We are 
talking to folks in Santiago, and they are also making inquiries.

We have already linked to the UN-SPIDER portal on the OSM wiki, and are 
monitoring it closely. Reciprocal link to our response page would be great.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake

Best
Mikel

== Mikel Maron ==
+254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron
http://mapkibera.org/
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti


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*From:* David Stevens <tazarko...@gmail.com <mailto:tazarko...@gmail.com>>

*To:* Mikel Maron <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com <mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com>>
*Cc:* Michael Keaney <mkea...@digitalglobe.com 
<mailto:mkea...@digitalglobe.com>>; France Lamy <fl...@google.com 
<mailto:fl...@google.com>>; Chris Nicholas <chrisgnicho...@att.net 
<mailto:chrisgnicho...@att.net>>; Walter Svekla <wsve...@gmail.com 
<mailto:wsve...@gmail.com>>; Christiaan Adams <csad...@google.com 
<mailto:csad...@google.com>>; Jeff Martin <jeffmar...@google.com 
<mailto:jeffmar...@google.com>>; Lars Bromley <lbrom...@aaas.org 
<mailto:lbrom...@aaas.org>>; John Crowley <bostonce...@gmail.com 
<mailto:bostonce...@gmail.com>>; "sg...@worldbank.org 
<mailto:sg...@worldbank.org>" <sg...@worldbank.org 
<mailto:sg...@worldbank.org>>; Miller Steve <miller.st...@geoeye.com 
<mailto:miller.st...@geoeye.com>>; Suha Ulgen 
<suha_ulgen%u...@unvienna.org <mailto:suha_ulgen%25u...@unvienna.org>>; 
Schuyler Erle <schuy...@nocat.net <mailto:schuy...@nocat.net>>; 
Christopher Schmidt <crschm...@metacarta.com 
<mailto:crschm...@metacarta.com>>; Patrick Meier (The Fletcher School) 
<patrick.me...@tufts.edu <mailto:patrick.me...@tufts.edu>>; Andrew 
Turner <ajtur...@highearthorbit.com 
<mailto:ajtur...@highearthorbit.com>>; Jeffrey Johnson 
<ortel...@gmail.com <mailto:ortel...@gmail.com>>; 
crisismapp...@googlegroups.com <mailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com>; 
crisismappers-ch...@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:crisismappers-ch...@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Mon, March 1, 2010 7:58:36 PM
*Subject:* [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile

Mikel,

I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.

First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme that has 
been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to help all countries 
as well as regional and international organisations to access and use 
space-based information. It is an interesting mandate because it means 
ensuring access and use as well as building capacity. We don't produce 
maps. We ensure end users and their partners are able to do it and use 
it for decision making. The fact we have the mandate means we work 
closely with the government institutions responsible for emergency 
response and disaster risk management and also with partners supporting 
these end users. More importantly after the response phase is gone and 
the media chasers have packed their bags and gone after another 
spotlight we continue working with the Government as in the case in 
Haiti: our work begins now as we help the Civil Protection Agency 
rebuild and get ready including for the next hurricane season.

We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the International 
Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in an emergency response 
we activate the International Charter as has been the case for both 
Haiti and Chile.

The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the end 
products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available for free 
as was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and the Haiti 
earthquake. We are working to ensure that imagery becomes a bit more 
widely available and not only for mega disasters. We have been involved 
and supported 5 disasters since Haiti and none of them received the same 
attention and dedication as Haiti.

Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use 
in Chile as well. We have updated the info on what is being made 
available on our webpage

http://www.un-spider.org/chile

Two requests

First if the crisismapper community could help us include info on 
available imagery and geospatial data that would help. I know there are 
several other portals as well with similar info but for sure our end 
users do access the UN-SPIDER Knowledge Portal first. Please feel free 
to replicate the info we have on other portals as well. We would 
appreciate a link to our portal. And we will ensure we include a link to 
the other portals. Please send us any info to include to the following 
e-mail: space...@unoosa.org <mailto:space...@unoosa.org>

Then regarding the mapping support for Chile we are open for 
suggestions. In Chile there are strong and efficient government 
institutions in place, both ONEMI and SNIT, and any effort should be 
centred on their needs and guidance.

One last useful info: UN-SPIDER is implemented by the United Nations 
Office for Outer Space Affairs. We are part of the UN Secretariat and we 
are the UN Office responsible for promoting the access and use of 
space-based technologies and solutions. Space is our business and our 
mandate.

Regards

David

David Stevens
Programme Coordinator
UN-SPIDER
United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
Vienna - Austria
Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount
Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 -  E-Mail david.stev...@unoosa.org 
<mailto:david.stev...@unoosa.org>

On 28 February 2010 06:25, Mikel Maron <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

   Colleagues

   Can we replicate the true environment of sharing that began in the
   response to Haiti?

   We are all at ready to respond once we hear the needs for Chile. OSM
   is ready to map, CrisisCamps are planned, there is an OSM Chile
   community who we are trying to get through to.
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake
    
   Simply, we need imagery we can use. I was hoping this would be an
   issue we all could discuss in the next few months, but now the need
   is urgent.
   The basic question ... will licensing allow use of the raw imagery
   data for response?

   * DigitalGlobe, GeoEye: Are acquisitions planned yet? Will license
   terms be dropped again?

   * Google: If you post imagery, can you make sure OSM has an
   exception to the non-commercial clause?

   * UN Charter: Any possibility of sharing imagery with volunteer groups?

   * Chris Schmidt/Schuyler Erle: Would you be ready to process imagery
   again?

   All ... any other sources or thoughts?

   Best
   Mikel

   == Mikel Maron ==
   +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron
   http://mapkibera.org/
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti


David STEVENS
Vienna - Austria
skype: tazarkount

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