Dear Jean-Guilhem, I turned off the SMS option for the service, since I will still receive the email and Twitter notifications in the same device. I think we should save the messages for people that does not have other options.
Regards, Julio Costa OpenStreetMap Chile http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <[email protected]>wrote: > (Version in English follows) > > Estimados todos, > > Después de los emails que siguen, un grupo GeoChat "Chile" ha sido creado, > en respuesta al terremoto de Chile para ayudar a coordinar la respuesta. Usted > está invitado a suscribirse: > > 1. abrir una cuenta en http://geochat.instedd.org/ > 2a. Una vez activada su cuenta, inscribirse para el grupo en geochat > llamado "Chile" > > > También, Julio ha creado un grupo de GeoChat "OpenStreetMap Chile", "Grupo > de Usuarios de OpenStreetMap en Chile". Para suscribirse a este grupo: > > 2b. Una vez activada su cuenta, inscribirse para el grupo en geochat > llamado "OSM_CL" > > > He encontrado el proceso de inscripción muy fácil y "amigable". (Entré mi > nombre, correo electrónico, número de teléfono celular y ubicación). Si > usted tiene alguna pregunta, por favor hágamelo saber. > > > > También una lista de correo "tradicional" ha sido creada para apoyar a > este grupo GeoChat: > - Para suscribirse, envíe un correo electrónico a > [email protected] > - Para enviar un mensaje a toda la lista: [email protected] > > > Saludos cordiales, > > Jean-Guilhem > > > > ---------- > Version in English > > Dear all, > > After this discussion, a "Chile" GeoChat group has been created, in > response to the Chile earthquake to help responders coordinate. You are > invited to join : > > 1. sign up for an account at http://geochat.instedd.org/ > 2a. once your account is activated, sign up for the group in geochat > called "Chile" > > > Note that Julio has also created a GeoChat group, "OpenStreetMap Chile", > "Grupo > de usuarios de OpenStreetMap en Chile". To join this group : > > 2b. once your account is activated, sign up for the group in geochat > called "OSM_CL" > > > I have found the signing up process very easy and "user friendly". (I > entered my name, email, cell phone number and location). If you have any > question, please let me know. > > > > Also, a "traditional" mailing list to support this GeoChat group has been > created : > - to subscribe, send an email to > [email protected] > - to post a message to the group : [email protected] > > > Best regards, > > Jean-Guilhem > > > Eduardo Jezierski a écrit : > > > On Sat,Mar 6, 2010, at 2:30 , Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: > > Hi, > > Exactly Eduardo. > > An example picture I had in mind can be seen at the bottom of > http://www.instedd.org/ (click on it to enlarge). > > > Yes that is the main geochat UI - http://geochat.instedd.org when you > sign in and are looking at group messages. We would have to look at how the > javascript to display the bubbles and images etc would need to change. > Anyone willing to help? > > > For a potential use by OSM-Chile, I think it would be better to have > OpenStreetMap as the basis for the map view. So that the map updates can be > seen quickly. > > Agree - > > > Mikel's blog is very interesting regarding how GeoChat can also help > feeding updates to OSM, by sending by SMS grid coordinates seen on a walking > paper. > > I am wondering whether, in some areas, cell phone companies can supply e.g. > antenna information, which could help localizing SMS approximately, when no > more precise mean is available (or better localization info if possible, of > course). > > The technology is there; but the regulatory issues are tricky. E.g. in > haiti to correlate a phone number with a tower it takes ~ 3 days to clear > the paperwork from the Haitian National Police. The telcos have no opt-in > system to let citizens jump onto this yet. > > > > Could preparing an example set-up for, e.g., the subscribers to > OSM-talk-Chile (talk-cl) (at most about 40 addresses at the moment) be a > good way to get started experimenting with GeoChat in Chile ? Some live in > hardly impacted areas (Concepción, Pichilemu, ...), some in Santiago, some > in Punta Arenas... > > Please go ahead! Join the geochat users lists to ask for some help and get > going. We dont have any chile-specific shortcodes yet but MVNO numbers > should be working. > > > I haven't yet started experimenting with GeoChat from here (I live in > Toulouse, France). I could help doing some translation to Spanish. > > > > Maybe we could follow on this topic on > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/geochatusers , which those interested could > join ? Or by direct mail ? Nicolás, everyone, what do you think ? > > > Lets continue on that group! Looking fwd to helping you out. > > > Best regards, > > Jean-Guilhem > > > Eduardo Jezierski a écrit : > > Yup, Camp Roberts was a cool joint effort (brought lots of feedback, > integration w geocommons for geocoding in some of our components, and MGRS > support) > > I think Jean means using OSM as the basis for the map view that makes the > main GeoChat UI; Jean maybe you can clarify? > > ~ ej > > > > On Fri,Mar 5, 2010, at 16:06 , Kate Chapman wrote: > > > > There has been integration before between InSTEDD and OSM. > > Mikel wrote a blog post about it: http://brainoff.com/weblog/2009/08/10/1435 > > -Kate > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Julio, > > I just found out about InSTEDD (http://www.instedd.org/) and think it might > interest you to have a look at what they offer. > > As a recent example of their activity, they technically supported the > emergency short code SMS system in Haiti. > > In particular, InSTEDD GeoChat was apparently designed as a communication > means for "major humanitarian crises". (http://www.instedd.org/geochat) > > > A quote from http://www.instedd.org/technology_overview follows: > (I do hope nobody takes offence that there might be some common points > between crisis situations anywhere in the world and common situation in the > developing world) > > "InSTEDD GeoChat is a unified mobile communications service designed > specifically to enable self-organizing group communications in the > developing world. The service lets mobile phone users broadcast > location-based alerts, report on their situation, and coordinate around > events as they unfold, linking field, headquarters, and the local community > in a real-time, interactive conversation visualized on the surface of a > map. Once you create a GeoChat group, you may use it as the text equivalent > of a push-to-talk radio: send the group a message on the Web, by email, or > by SMS, and the rest of the group receives it. GeoChat allows information > to flow over multiple messaging channels, including dedicated SMS servers, a > cell phone plugged into a laptop, a satellite phone, and even Twitter. You > may learn more about InSTEDD GeoChat here. Please join the online community > around GeoChat here. GeoChat is hosted "in the cloud" via Amazon, so there > is no server to deploy. GeoChat has global SMS coverage through Clickatel, > has a US domestic SMS shortcode, and may easily be integrated with gateways > of local carriers. Users have referred to GeoChat as “Email for the Bottom > Billion”." > > GeoChat is in Beta. > > I do not know whether it is easy to have OSM as the map used in GeoChat > (example pictures display Google maps), but since it is free and open source > (GPLv3), it would certainly be possible to adapt it if necessary. > > > I am just learning about InSTEDD, so there may also be other potentially > interesting things on their website (like http://www.trackernews.net/, for > instance). > > Hoping this helps, > > Jean-Guilhem > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing > [email protected]http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > _____________________________________ > Eduardo Jezierski, InSTEDD, VP of Engineering > skype: eduardojezierski > twitter: @edjez > mobile: +1 425 269 8378 > Iridium +88 16 32 51 61 85 > > > > > > > > _____________________________________ > Eduardo Jezierski, InSTEDD, VP of Engineering > skype: eduardojezierski > twitter: @edjez > mobile: +1 425 269 8378 > Iridium +88 16 32 51 61 85 > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-cl mailing > [email protected]http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cl > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >
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