On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 01:23:32PM +0100, SteveC wrote: > On 2 Jul 2009, at 13:21, Tobias Wendorff wrote: > > > SteveC schrieb: > >> Out of interest - why is this? If you follow that logic then I should > >> keep the trademarks and domain names I owned also? > > > > Seems like EvilStevil breaks down OSM to trademarks, doesn't he? > > Of course ... he also registered the OSM-logo as a trademark in UK. > > What on earth are you talking about? I registered them because it was > quicker, and the foundation now owns them. Stop spreading FUD.
Are we talking about the domains or the trademarks? The domains you registered long ago privately because that was before an OSMF existed, which is totally ok. In this mail in July 2007 you said you would transfer them to OSMF the next month: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-July/015088.html In fact you did only do this after prompting at the end of 2008. See this board meeting minutes under point 4: http://foundation.openstreetmap.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/20081125.pdf And this one again under point 4: http://foundation.openstreetmap.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ Now about the trademark: You applied for the trademark in your own name. You argue you did that because it was quicker, but don't explain why it is quicker to do this in your own name instead of OSMFs. This claim is especially doubious, because the issue came up in the board meeting of 2007-11-15, then in almost every board meeting this subject was mentioned as beeing on your todo list. (See http://foundation.openstreetmap.org/officers-board/board-meeting-minutes/ where I count 9 mentionings of this topic.) So if you were that much in a hurry, why did it take almost a year without much action? I assume you told the board at some point that you had the application under your own name. The trademark application was subsequently transferred to OSMF. (See the above mentioned two board meeting minutes again under point 4 for this.) > And, stop thinking it's bad for me to register something but totally > ok for you to. Well there is the issue of you beeing the chairman of the board of directors of OSMF. So for you registering a domain or a trademark in your own name there is a definite conflict of interest. For Joe Mapper there isn't. The board meeting minutes are not really clear on what your assignment was. It was at least to do research and report back to the board. Maybe even to get the trademark for OSMF. You did the research and then got the trademarks for yourself. Am I the only one to think there is a huge conflict of interest here? At least an enormous error in judgment? But, as you say, the domains and trademark are with the foundation now, so all ended well and we can go on to other topics. Jochen -- Jochen Topf [email protected] http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 _______________________________________________ Talk-de mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
