I like the ideas Shaun - if there is a worldwide tag cycle_route its much better than using ncn_ref even if we have a little rework..
Just a couple of points The ref should not be just a number - numbers on the rendered map can easily be confused - much better N1 or NR1 though I prefer the former. I would suggest that using just a number is a bit like relying on the route being rendered as red of green to know that 1 meant A1 etc. The other point I would make is that URLs are not really constant - webmasters tend to shift stuff more often than they change their socks so I fear that your new tag would soon hold obsolete informatiuon. Anyway thats my twopenceworth Dave p.s. I do hope I have doen this rigth as its first attempt to post anything - Old dog - new trick etc! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shaun McDonald Sent: 11 July 2007 14:45 To: Talk GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Fwd: NCN refs - consistency I don't like having to remember to hit "reply all" for the OSM lists, can this setting be changed? Can I also get a copy of mail that I send to the list, just like the OpenOffice.org list do? That way I know that the mail has gone to the list without having to go to the archive. Begin forwarded message: From: "Andy Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 11 July 2007 13:05:52 BDT To: "Shaun McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] NCN refs - consistency Sounds good. Send it to the list though :-) On 7/11/07, Shaun McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11 Jul 2007, at 11:51, Andy Allan wrote: > On 7/11/07, Gregory Williams > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> All, >> >> I'd like to see a consistent format adopted as well. >> >> Many of the Kent routes are ones that I've input. I use the single >> letter followed by number format for the following reasons: >> >> - The letter is required because otherwise it's not clear whether you >> mean a national or a regional route. I live close to both regional >> cycle >> route 17 and national cycle route 17. I suspect that the initial >> letter >> may have been missed off by some people simply because there >> aren't many >> regional routes in some places of the country. In Kent I'm aware >> of six >> regional routes (11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18) as well as four national >> routes >> (1, 2, 17, 18). > > Out of interest, are these regional routes in Kent formally part of > the National Cycle Network, or some other regional network? On the > sign posts, does it say "NCN 17" or have 17 in white on a red > background, ala the NCRs? For instance, the London Cycle Network is > completely independent of the National Cycle network, and so have > different logos, numbering and so on. > > I'd really prefer to break the different networks into different tags > somehow, as it's much easier to treat them separately without having > to have fuzzy text parsing of the values. Same way we have > highway=secondary instead of just parsing the reference number to try > and match B roads. > How about cycle_route= {national,regional,local,national_link,regional_link,local_link} I'm adding links, as there are often short sections of cycle way between residential areas or the rest of the road network and the main part of the cycle way. cycle_route_ref=number cycle_route_url=link to an official site about the specific route for example http://www.sustrans.org.uk/default.asp?sID=1099664999015 If there is descriptions of the route multiple urls could be given through a ; or , separator. cycle_route_org={sustrans, nationalbyway, etc} Not sure about this one just now, though could do with some changes. This should hopefully be generic enough for other countries too. Shaun
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