graham wrote: > Or more dangerous. I won't mark some roads with cycle lanes where I > think they are really unsafe (ridiculously narrow and over drains; > jumping off road onto pavement and back again at dangerous points; > stopping suddenly where roads narrow leaving you in an unsafe position > to continue; crossing roads at points where the traffic signals are not > visible; etc). I also won't map footpaths as for cycling where our local > council has recently started putting up signs showing pictures of > parents with small toddlers and bicycles, after nearly hitting mothers > with children in buggies a couple of times: I don't think mapping > includes making councils look as though they have a real policy when all > they are doing is taking the cheapest route that technically satisfies > targets. > >
We have a local area (Chafford Hundred)where these signs are common - this is in fact a 2-level way with a distinct step/kerb to segregate foot/cycle lanes, and purpose-built in a new (20 years) development. I have a bit of it mapped at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.49369594708108&lon=0.3169588268851326&zoom=14&layers=B0T (lots to do). This is however a net of cycleways in a residential area, not through-ways for serious long-distance travel. I wouldn't go fast here as it crosses roads frequently, and toddlers don't read the signs. I have them in the maps as highway=cycleway, foot=yes, bicycle=yes which brings them up green in Osmarender, as opposed to highway=footway, bicycle=yes, foot=yes which is brown. Perhaps the route itself speaks volumes on the speed of these paths? The main cycle route is a separate lane alongside the old A13 (now A1306), which is clearly straight past the area but short of adding a separate way, doesn't show on a map. Or perhaps a better method would be maxspeed=10, which on a no-car route tells you it's a bit slow... When TomTom for pushbikes comes out, it would tend to avoid these! Mark _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb
