On 11 Jun 2009, at 07:49, Abigail Brady wrote:

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Peter Miller <[email protected] > wrote:

*UK
*England/Wales/Scotland
*English regions (North East, East of England etc)
*Ceremonial counties/unitaries
*Districts
*Parishes/Wards etc (but lets deal with the big ones first)

Ceremonial counties are not part of the administrative hierarchy, they form a separate hierarchy

Good point. How about tagging ceremonial counties as 'type=boundary' and 'boundary=ceremonial'? We can use the admin-level for county to indicate that it is a ceremonial county as distinct from a ceremonial region (if there is such a thing). We could then also have 'boundary=historical county' and other inventions for defunct administrative boundaries.

the border between ceremonial Durham and ceremonial North Yorkshire goes through the Stockton-on-Tees unitary authority along the river.

I have added a new boundary for the ceremonial county as distinct to the unitary which I think is correct:-

County Durham (ceremonial)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/156050

Durham (unitary)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/88067


 Do you mean "metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties?"

possibly! Would that be approriate?

The mention of NUTS worries me. In England it doesn't encode the actual administrative hierarchy anyway and classifies this area as

UKC... North East England
UKC1... Tees Valley and Durham
UKC11... Hartlepool and Stockton-on-Tees

I trust we aren't going to see agglomerations like 'Hartlepool and Stockton' appear in the database instead of the actual administrative regions.

Personally I am interested in having good boundaries for the regions, the ceremonial counties and the administrative units (county councils, unitary council etc). Hartlepool and Stockton-on-Tees are separate unitaries and have separate boundaries which I think is correct. For administrative purposes I believe that Harlepool is in the North West which is in England which is in the UK. Hartlepool is also in the ceremonial county of County Durham and also possibly in the UKC11 area but those are different and outside the core 'boundary=administrative' structure. Possibly someone might like to add the UKC11 boundary, but that is not one I have come across and doesn't appear to be in the hierarchy we are talking about. If NUTS does this then possibly it is not appropriate.

It should be said that the area we are talking about is one of the more complex in the UK given that the counties/unitaries don't fit neatly into a single region.



Regards,



Peter





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Abi


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