On 15 Jul 2009, at 14:13, Abigail Brady wrote:
This is certainly worth pursuing. Unfortunately, the real problem
comes in rural areas where, for example, boundaries are defined to
be the paths of things like hedges that aren't there any more,
previous courses of rivers, etc. There are some boundaries where
the 'master definition' is defined by law with reference to an OS-
derived map, without a textual description...
I think we should treat the whole boundaries projects as a 'best
endeavours' project where we assembly the best complete boundary lines
we can in each instance and accept that it is not as accurate as it
could be if we had access to the official data. Personally I see this
as a way to encourage the powers-that-be to unlock the safe and give
us citizens (or possibly we are 'subjects') the real data. Until they
do that people will be forced to us the data we can collect.
What I do know is that there are lots of things we can do with
approximate boundaries that we can't do with no boundaries or
incomplete boundaries, hence the encouragement to get something into
OSM even if it is tagged as 'this is guess at the boundary at this
point'. If we get every village into the right county that would be a
good start.
Regards,
Peter
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Mike Collinson <[email protected]>
wrote:
I don't know whether this has been explored before, but a tit-bit
from Bob Barr who gave a SOTM key note last year and enjoyed himself
so he came again.
Bob is councillor in ?Warrington and once asked all the councils in
the greater Manchester area for boundary data. All supplied him OS-
derived data except Stockport which gave him a copy of original
definition which is text based ("The boundary goes down the centre
of WhatNot Street and then turns left along Kirk Lane ...") and
therefore free of OS copyright issues. Each area in the country
should have one of these document BEFORE the information is
transcribed into coordinates. He suggests asking the Boundary
Commission under the Freedom of Information Act for the whole set.
As far as I can tell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_Commissions_%28United_Kingdom%29
, there is one Commission for England http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pbc/default.asp
, one for Scotland etc.
Anyone tried this? Anyone game?
Mike
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