2009/7/19 Frederik Ramm <[email protected]>:
> Hi,
>
> Peter Miller wrote:
>> There is a relation for 'London Boroughs'. I wondered if we should produced
>> one for 'Regions of England', and 'ceremonial counties of England' and
>> add the appropriate relations to them.
>
> Generally, relations that just serve the purpose of collecting things
> are frowned upon. Relations are not meant to be a substitute for
> categories.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories
>
...
>
>> Here is the 'London Boroughs' relation as an example. I like the map
>> that is produced from it.
>
> Yes, I have the impression that people often do collection relations
> because they enjoy being able to simply request a relation/full OSM
> document from the API and retrieve all the objects, rather than having
> to find a working XAPI server and formulate a query. However this is
> *really* something that should be done at search time and not in the
> database - if we had grouping relations for everything that someone
> possibly wants so search for... hm, ok, the "slippery slope" argument
> doesn't help.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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When I created the relation (end of 2008), I was doing a mass tidyup
of London Borough boundaries, I primarily created the relation so I
could quickly pull up a neighbouring boundary relation in JOSM when I
found another section of it.
I was idly wondering if it could be turned into an is_in relation for
some point for the Greater London region, even though it is implicit
through the Greater London polygon (which may or may not be complete).

Thanks for raising my attention to this, since I've now discovered
that SteveC deleted the boundary relation for Tower Hamlets in Feb
09.... I think it's time for another tidyup session...

-- 
Regards,
Thomas Wood
(Edgemaster)

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