Hi,

Shaun McDonald <[email protected]> schrieb:
 
> On 29 Jul 2009, at 16:26, Brian Prangle wrote:
> 
> > Finally decided to map red routes after avoiding it for over a
> > year (red routes are sprouting up rapidly  in South Birmingham
> > despite fierce oppostion from local traders - they're "no stopping"
> > routes which are rigidly enforced). There's not much to guide me as
> > a mapper following a quick search in the usual places - so can the  
> > community offer some thoughts so we can get a consensus and a
> > common approach for those few of us  who have to contend with them?
> > The following initial offering is from our local tagging guru Andy  
> > Robinson (who else?)
> >
> >  If  it's a red route I'd suggest red_route=yes on it since the  
> > regulations
> > applicable to a red route don't fit easily into any one category.  
> > However
> > since there aren't many places with Red Routes yet (only London
> > [1] and West
> > Mids [2] in the UK?) we could have a stab with the London folks on  
> > how they
> > should be mapped better than this. Bus lanes could very much fall  
> > into the
> > thoughts as well as Urban Clearways.
> 
> Edinburgh had decided to be different and call these roads
> greenways. (I think the idea was to have a positive spin on the fact
> that "green" transport can use it rather than it being a place that
> you can't go by denoting them red.)
> http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/CEC/CityDevelopment/TransportandTravel/Parking/GreenwaysandBusLanes/Greenways_And_Bus_Lanes.html

In Germany it is relatively common to have bus lanes which also allow
taxis and cyclists to travel on them. Green Routes seem to be a very
similar concept. So perhaps it makes sense to build a tagging scheme
based on bus lanes as busses seem to be the main reason for the
introduction of the lanes and add additional allowed vecicles. 

I do not know if Green Routes is just another name for Red Routes. The
Red Routes seem to put a much greater emphasis on the fact that you are
not allowed to stop there.

        Christoph

> Shaun
> 
> >
> > These are all some sort of "restriction" so maybe that tagging  
> > approach
> > should be considered.
> >
> > For times, the start / end type tags should be good enough, though  
> > it gets
> > more complicated if you have to also add a tag that stats which
> > days it
> > applies to and when there is more than one time period of
> > operation in a
> > given day.  For example the Stratford Road  Red Route operates
> > M-S 7am-7pm
> >
> > [1] http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/finesandregulations/949.aspx
> > [2] http://www.westmidlandsltp.gov.uk/redroutes.php?id=2493
> >
> > Bus Lanes are yet another headache!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Brian
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