John Robert Peterson wrote:
> If you look at the use cases -- 2 spring to mind: some people looking
> for somwhere to play football; somone out with a mobile device trying
> to work out where they are on a common (if they can use the football
> field as a frame of reference, they will know exactly where they are)

Hopefully they'd use some kind of search to find their nearest football
pitch, in which case the existing data will take them straight to it.
It's correctly tagged, a

> In both these cases (and frankly in general) having it rendered would
> an advantage, and I can't really think of a disadvantage (orther than
> hastle in getting it done)

The original post complained about the colour of a football pitch being
the same as the surrounding common, and hence not distinct. My objection
was to changing the rendered colour of pitches for this one example,
since elsewhere on the map people would expect to see either of those
things in green. I did suggest a background with a football icon as a
way of distinguishing the two, but I think it won't particularly help,
since you'd have to be at quite a high zoom for this to show up.

I don't think there's *any* change we could make to rendering that would
make a football pitch stand out at low zoom. From the example we're
discussing (http://osm.org/go/euwjlzeC--), I think z15 is the lowest
where it would stand out, and that's far enough in that you'd have to
know it was there anyway. As I said, I think this is a job for search,
and the data is fine for that.

> other points being: we have the data, why isn't it getting rendered;
> while perminence is an argument of sorts, that's what updating the map
> is for, (a housing estate can become brownfield site with the aid of a
> bulldoser)

The permanence thing was, as I said, more of a philosophical discussion.

> So while i understand your point to some extent, I do think it's worth
> doing somthing about, even if it's not a huge priority

I don't think there's a need to do anything with the data -- that's
correct as is, and if someone uses a search tool to find football
pitches in OSM, it'll show up. Rendering? Happy to see some change, but
not just for this one example at the expense of all others.

-- 
Jonathan (Jonobennett)

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