Nice work, but as the OS data is a good dataset and compatible with our
current license why would anyone be surprised that people are using it. I've
uploaded woods and waterways for my area so it looks pretty blue but the
streets were surveyed on the ground and I would think that might be the same
for quite a few areas. This sort of data (woods, streams, etc.) is a bit
less core to the map than areas where people are filling in missing streets
from OS data.

In 6 months time the OS data will be so entrenched in the UK map that we
could never strip it out in any useful way without vast amounts of fixup
being required and I can't imagine many people being interested in doing
that. So for me at least whatever license we change to must be OS
compatible.

Kevin








On 21 July 2010 22:57, Graham Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have tidied up my OS Opendata Map (
> http://www.maps.webhop.net/osm_opendata).
>
> The changes are:
>
>    - Lines and dots are smaller so it looks less of a mess.
>    - It excludes source tags containing '25k', 'os7' and 'photos', which
>    were giving quite a lot of false positives, especially in Scotland.  Let me
>    know if you see any others and I can exclude them.
>    - I have left my original layer available as 'tiles1', but this is not
>    displayed by default - you can add it with the '+' control to see the
>    differences.
>    - The about <http://www.maps.webhop.net/osm_opendata/about.html> page
>    has been updated to describe how it works better (still crude, but more
>    complicated SQL!).
>
> There are still some surprising things here - for example National Cycle
> Route 1 is highlighted, even though I know that the bits I added are not
> from OS Opendata (see the bit from Whitby to Sunderland 
> here<http://www.maps.webhop.net/osm_opendata/?zoom=10&lat=54.6778&lon=-1.37818&layers=BFT>).
>   It seems that someone has tagged the relation (Relation Number 9579) with
> 'OS_OpenData_StreetView' - I don't know why they would have done this?
>
> Regards
>
> Graham.
>
>
> On 20 July 2010 23:40, Graham Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your comments.
>> I'll not get into the licence change debate here - plenty of that on
>> osm-talk....
>>
>> -  I agree that there are a few surprises highlighted here.   There are a
>> couple of cycle tracks highlighted that I survryed myself, so I will have to
>> check the underlying data.  When I get home I will improve the filtering to
>> exclude os 1:25k references.
>> - I will see what I can do with the rendering as Gregory suggests.
>> - The supermarkets reference is copy-and-paste-itis on my behalf - sorry!
>> - Emilie is probably right that strictly I should be interested in
>> history, but I cant do that easily from a planet extract, and I don't think
>> it will matter too much with opendata being so recent.   A curious legal
>> point is that if a way was originally derived from os-opendata, but
>> subsequently re-surveyed, is it still derived from opendata?
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> ____________________
>> Graham Jones
>> (from my phone)
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2010 4:41 PM, "80n" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Robert Whittaker (OSM) <
>> [email protected] <robert.whittaker%[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > >...
>> What's more, because Produced Works can be published under a restrictive
>> license we couldn't get the additional data back by tracing either.  ODbL +
>> CT makes getting data back into OSM much harder than it is now by a massive
>> degree.
>>
>> BTW, how would a corporation agree to the Contributor Terms anyway?  The
>> sign-up page only caters for individuals.  Has, for example, CloudMade,
>> agreed to the contributor terms yet and how could we tell if they had?
>>
>> 80n
>>
>>
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