Dave

I am interested in your opinion but please hold back slightly from giving me instructions as to what to do or not do. There might be other opinions.

My use of the verb "assume" was more to ask for other opinions - and thank you for yours - than to claim that my personal assumption (or anyone else's for that matter) was a valid basis for OSM work. Assumption differs from guessing inasmuch as there needs to be at least some basis for the former!

To help me decide where I stand, please could you provide me with the evidence for your statement that the acronym "ORPA" is copyright to the OS? I have not seen it registered as a trade mark or similar? but perhaps I have missed that. Does the copyright you mention extend to the English language phrase "other routes with public access" - I would have thought that such a phrase would be difficult to protect with copyright?

I won't enter hear into the debate as to whether OSM should record only and exclusively what can be seen on the ground as this has been discussed endlessly. I suspect that your opinion is currently a minority view. It seems to me that there are countless (in all sorts of contexts) examples of people including in the database information that cannot be seen on the ground e.g. the "source" tag.

Let's not get too dictatorial in this discussion!

Mike

On 19:59, Dave F. wrote:
Hi

I've had a reply from the user who admits he based the tagging on an on-line OS map & has subsequently removed the specific tag.

The ways still have access tags such as foot, horse etc..


On 24/03/2011 10:11, Mike Harris wrote:

        

        

        

        

        



I would assume that information that is, for example, based on personal local knowledge or on personal conversations with people having such knowledge (including but not restricted to public servants in the Highway Authority) is a legitimate and unencumbered source.

Assumption is the same as guessing & not good for OSM.


There are also, in some areas at least, lists of ORPAs that are publicly available (in the same way that the 'List of Streets' is publicly available). I am not aware of ORPAs ever being signed as such (although a few do have some sort of signage indicating that there is a public right of access - and others illegally indicating otherwise!).

Do these lists use the name OR PA?

If not, then the only source is the OS which is copyrighted.

Tag what you see on the ground

Cheers
Dave F.

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