On 19 April 2011 14:14, David Groom <revi...@pacific-rim.net> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "TimSC" <mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk> > To: <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Contributor Terms vs OS OpenData Licence > > > > >> On 19/04/11 11:45, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 04/19/11 12:32, TimSC wrote: >>> >>>> I still think that the CTs ask >>>> for rights to be granted that are broader than are granted by the >>>> Opendata license. This point is disputed by Richard and others. Here are >>>> the most prolific Opendata users (in terms of version 1 objects) that >>>> have accepted the CTs, along with their user IDs: >>>> >>> >>> Does the explicit naming of these people actually contribute anything to >>> solving the problem? >>> >> Determining the scope of the problem is perhaps the first step to solving >> it. And we might want to find out why these users felt the need >> > > In defence of those users, I suspect they did not feel "the need to > (possibly) violate OS OpenData's license", i.e I suspect they did not make > a conscious decision to possibly violate the licence; > > I suspect that either: > > (a) they were unaware there might be a problem, because when you are asked > to agree to sign the CT's there really is no warning to those who have not > followed the licensing debate that some existing sources of data may not be > compatible with the CT's ; > > or (b) they have been persuaded by those on this (and the legal list) who > have argued that OS OpenData is compatible with the CT's . > > Ultimately, however, those users motives are not the most relevant issue. > What is more relevant are the as yet unanswered questions: > > (i) is OS OpenData compatible with the CT's; and > > (ii) what will happen to the contributions of users who have breached the > CT's > > David > > > to (possibly) violate OS Opendata's license. User education might be >> something we can work on? >> >> However, does your question go towards solving the problem? Ad hominem tu >> quoque! >> > This is a good question, and a perenial one and not really one that we can resolve as we are not lawyers and are not on the license working group. Some readers may remember that I asked the same question some time back. In the end I got reassurance from the board that it was OK and I signed up.
The License team are well aware of the issue and I hope they will ensure that there is not a problem. Personally, I am not going to let it worry me. I expect them to do their job and ensure that it works and I will get on with mapping. Regards, Peter Miller (user:PeterIto) > >> TimSC >> >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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