Hi, Bob, if you want to scape the wiki for info, you could try these tools:
http://scraperwiki.com/ I was thinking of visualising this page, to give a sense of the developer community: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_based_Services Possibly more category and date tagging would help visualise the wiki. I was going to use the Many Eyes website to start with. I'll let you know how I get on. Tim > From: [email protected] > Subject: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 58, Issue 3 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:09:27 +0100 > > Send Talk-GB mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-GB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Documentation and Visualisation (woll) > 2. Re: Documentation and Visualisation (Bob Kerr) > 3. Re: Documentation and Visualisation Proposal = dead (Bob Kerr) > 4. Re: Documentation and Visualisation (Andy Mabbett) > 5. Re: Documentation and Visualisation (Bob Kerr) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: woll <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Bob Kerr wrote: > > > > I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be acted on > > for a year so that I could deleted it, > > > > Please don't delete 'old' proposals. They should 'never' be deleted, so that > next time someone thinks of a similar proposal they can use the previous one > as a starting point (or use it to realise why the proposal was not a good > one). > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Documentation-and-Visualisation-tp6542810p6543328.html > Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:43:15 +0100 (BST) > From: Bob Kerr <[email protected]> > To: woll <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am not going to delete anything, I am trying to suggest a method where we > can take control of the wiki, in a similar way that we control the map data. > > We tag the wiki pages > > we could also use things like > > page=application_description > page=instruction > page=introduction > page=reference > > Cheers > > Bob > > > ________________________________ > From: woll <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 16:31 > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > > > Bob Kerr wrote: > > > > I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be acted on > > for a year so that I could deleted it, > > > > Please don't delete 'old' proposals. They should 'never' be deleted, so that > next time someone thinks of a similar proposal they can use the previous one > as a starting point (or use it to realise why the proposal was not a good > one). > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Documentation-and-Visualisation-tp6542810p6543328.html > Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/attachments/20110703/baf57c27/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:54:06 +0100 (BST) > From: Bob Kerr <[email protected]> > To: woll <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation Proposal = dead > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > We could add proposal= dead to the wiki page then we can filter all the dead > pages so see all the things that have been proposed and see what has been > done before > > Cheers > > Bob > > ________________________________ > From: Bob Kerr <[email protected]> > To: woll <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 16:43 > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > > > I am not going to delete anything, I am trying to suggest a method where we > can take control of the wiki, in a similar way that we control the map data. > > We tag the wiki pages > > we could also use things like > > page=application_description > page=instruction > page=introduction > page=reference > > Cheers > > Bob > > > ________________________________ > From: woll <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 16:31 > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > > > Bob Kerr wrote: > > > > I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be acted on > > for a year so that I could deleted it, > > > > Please don't delete 'old' proposals. They should 'never' be deleted, so that > next time someone thinks of a similar proposal they can use the previous one > as a starting point (or use it to realise why the proposal was not a good > one). > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Documentation-and-Visualisation-tp6542810p6543328.html > Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/attachments/20110703/8a794fb9/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:29:19 +0100 > From: Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > Message-ID: > <cabixoenyue77ep+pf6mr2pwckfp02vfjz7kpj8b3_wc0rmv...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Have a look at how Wikipedia uses categories. > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > On Jul 3, 2011 9:43 AM, "Bob Kerr" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was thinking last night about the ITO Analysis heat map as a tool that > motivates people to look into doing some mapping in different area's. > > > > http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/map_browser > > > > > > I was wondering what statistics are available that we could use to make an > interactive visualisation/map of the quality/last time edited of the pages > on the wiki. > > I think analysing the whole wiki might be too confusing but maybe a > smaller subset like tags might be worth experimenting on. If we had a map > which shows which tags have been accepted, which are proposed and not voted > on, which are proposed and abandoned, which set of tags are confusing or > need to be rethought. I am definitely thinking of a map and not a series of > graphs, I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be > acted on for a year so that I could deleted it, > > > > If we gave the wiki page itself some tags > > > > page=proposal > > > > date:started=01/01/2011 > > > > voting=02/07/2011 > > > > If we had a voting tag then we can show which proposals are currently > being voted on > > > > spanish=no > > > > needs translation > > > > duplication= wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/******** > > > > cleanup= yes > > > > for areas that we need more documentation we can create a page then add > the tag > > > > page=not started > > > > > > My mind is wandering a bit this morning so if this sounds daft please > ignore > > > > Cheers > > > > Bob > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/attachments/20110703/35e31074/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:09:18 +0100 (BST) > From: Bob Kerr <[email protected]> > To: Andy Mabbett <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Excellent, much better than my idea of tags > > This would bring me to the visualisation done by Chris Harrison on > visualising wikipedia > > http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/wikiviz/index.html > > > and > > http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/clusterball/ > > > is there any value in something like this for increasing the quality of our > wiki/documentation > > Cheers > > Bob > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 21:29 > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation > > > Have a look at how Wikipedia uses categories. > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > On Jul 3, 2011 9:43 AM, "Bob Kerr" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi,? > > > > I was thinking last night about the ITO Analysis heat map as a tool that > > motivates people to look into doing some mapping in different area's. > > > > http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/map_browser > > > > > > I was wondering what statistics are available that we could use to make an > > interactive visualisation/map of the quality/last time edited of the pages > > on the wiki. > > I think analysing the whole wiki might be too confusing but maybe a smaller > > subset like tags might be worth experimenting on. If we had a map which > > shows which tags have been accepted, which are proposed and not voted on, > > which are proposed and abandoned, which set of tags are confusing or need > > to be rethought. I am definitely thinking of a map and not a series of > > graphs, I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be > > acted on for a year so that I could deleted it, > > > > If we gave the wiki page itself some tags > > > > page=proposal > > > > date:started=01/01/2011 > > > > voting=02/07/2011 > > > > If we had a voting tag then we can show which proposals are currently being > > voted on > > > > spanish=no > > > > needs translation > > > > duplication=?wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/******** > > > > cleanup= yes > > > > for areas that we need more documentation we can create a page then add the > > tag > > > > page=not started > > > > > > My mind is wandering a bit this morning so if this sounds daft please ignore > > > > Cheers > > > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/attachments/20110704/238eb99b/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > End of Talk-GB Digest, Vol 58, Issue 3 > **************************************
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