I think both have their advantages - I like the idea of a good signposted 
rights of way network, but I intensely dislike the Anglo-American attitude 
towards private property compared to say Scotland or Germany (naming two 
countries I've walked in where they seem to be more easy-going)

On the one hand down here in the 'southern' UK we do have guaranteed rights of 
way (when the council haven't been deprived of funds to look after them by 
central government of course) which is good, we can use stiles, gates etc 
rather than trek across barbed wire and so on.

On the other hand, it really does p*ss me off when you see a track or clear 
path, which would make a nice walk, in England and it says "KEEP OUT" seemingly 
just for the hell of it. A mixture of E+W rights of way plus a Scottish right 
to walk anywhere where you're not disturbing crops, farm animals, or walking 
through people's gardens would be good.

Nick

-----Philip Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: -----
To: [email protected]
From: Philip Barnes <[email protected]>
Date: 17/02/2012 07:42PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines" on the OSM wiki: due 
for an update?

On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 16:16 +0000, SomeoneElse wrote:

> The "England and Wales" vs rest of UKoGBaNI issue can probably be most 
> easily addressed by renaming it as an "England and Wales" guideline 
> page?  The issues it attempts to address are an English and Welsh 
> problem that the parts of the country with sensible access rules don't have.
> 
No sure they are sensible. I have read somewhere, and my experience
backs it up, is that the Scottish model works best for land above 2000
feet and the English/Welsh model works best for land below 2000 feet.

Being able to walk anywhere doesn't provide a means for actually walking
there. The English/Welsh system ensures that there is a way through a
series of fields, not just a right to walk there.

Phil


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