We still NEED some usable mechanism to maintain historic information. On the 
whole the map is just growing, so just a valid start date is all that is 
needed. But increasingly we have modern history where roads are remodelled, and 
moving the history of those changes to something other than the main database 
just seems pointless?

----- Original message -----
> I agree with Dave F here,   where would you stop.
> 
> I've been updating some streetnames around the SW, and noticed that
> there   are now railway=abandoned going through towns and villages where
> there are   no remains of the tracks visible. (Housing estates clearly
> built over any   remnants of old lines)
> 
> Where there is physical evidence of an embankment, cutting, old track
> route,   then by all means record it.     (I've done this myself, as it
> helps to   explain the topography)   but this is not a historic document.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jason W (UniEagle)
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Dave F.
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 10:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags
> 
> On 30/06/2012 15:11, SomeoneElse wrote:
> > Obviously "mapping things that aren't there any more" is a bigger
> > issue
> Has there been discussion about this outside talk:railway? If there
> hasn't I'm a bit annoyed that a niche user group didn't discuss it with
> the wider world.
> 
> You're correct it has been discussed before but I thought there was a
> conclusion - that OSM is not a historic document.
> 
> It there is physical evidence of something from days gone by then tag it
> as such but if the landscape has totally obliterated it, leave it be. If
> Peterito wants to create a 'railways of the past map' he should use OSM
> as the _current_ background and import old ways from a separate database.
> 
> One of the problems is where do you stop? I live in a city that's goes
> back beyond Roman occupation. If OSM were to be totally inclusive &
> complete in a historic sense then my patch would be a right PITA to move
> around within the editors, let alone amend anything.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave F.
> 
> 
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