I doubt if anyone checks the Naptan account: it's an import account largely to separate personal mapping from imports. Furthermore I don't know how active the user who co-ordinated the imports is these days: info is available on the wiki.
I don't think either OSM or NaPTAN ever came up with a satisfactory way of mapping hail-and-ride segments. If you search back in the archives we did have a bit of a discussion. I remember Andy Allan fulminating against a great rash of non-existent bus tops local to him in Putney, which turned out to be a particularly crass set of NaPTAN points. The existence of a time-table attached to a lamp-post suggest that this a customary stop. Ideally we ought to be able to mark hail-and-ride segments on the route-relation of the bus route (it's a property of the route not of the local geography), but can't quite see how to do it. It's something I stopped worrying about when the local council decided that putting bus stop signs up might get more people using the buses. It took quite a bit longer before the buses only stopped at the stops for setting-down. Jerry On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:27 AM, OpenStreetmap HADW <[email protected]>wrote: > NaPTAN stops can be placed in one of the following categories > (initially the not-verified one): > > - not-verified (imported but not surveyed on the ground); > - verified (NaPTAN data has been correlated with a physical stop on > the ground and the location adjusted, if necessary); > - physically not present, customary stop; > - physically not present and no associated stop. > > Near me, there is a hail and ride segment of a bus route, i.e. you can > request the bus to stop at any safe place and there are, for some > level of formality, no formal stops. > > On that route segment, there is NaPTAN data for a number of stops, > which although it doesn't have local references for the stops, it also > doesn't have a "customary stop flag". On the ground, most of these > correspond to timetables attached to lamp posts. These timetables are > not named, but you can deduce the name from the accompanying partial > listing of stops and journey times. Some do not, and I think those > actually represent the end of of the hail and ride section. People > wanting to get on the bus, do tend to congregate at the time tables, > to some extent. but they also get on at other places.. > > My problem, which I've tried asking of the NaPTAN user on the > OpenStreetmap itself, with no reply, is for the two cases: > > - time table on lamp post; > - no time table, but probable end of hail and ride, > > should they be considered as: > > NaPTAN verified; > not physically present, customary stop; or > not physically present, not a stop. > > I've got a .osm file, sitting on my disk,with corrected locations, > waiting for an answer to these questions before I commit it. > > (Actually, iti is really two back to back sections, as there is a real > stop in the middle.) > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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