Peter wrote:

> As such, it seems unreasonable to ask a new mapper to great a
situation requiring 
> a court case for every ambiguous section of road in the country to
establish if they 
> are dual carriageways or single carriageways. This is why I
suggest we use 
> GB:national to indicate that the speed is set by a black/white
sign.
> 
> We could however compromise and suggest 'GB:nsl_dual' where we
know if is a dual 
> carriageway, 'GB:nsl:single' where we know it isn't and
GB:national where we aren't 
> sure.
> Alternatively, we could always use 'GB:national' for the maxspeed
type and add 
> other tagging to indicate dual carriagewayness, either using
'carriagway=A/B' tag 
> or a relation with type=dual-carriageway or similar.
> Or..  and this is the simplest approach in the short term as far
as I can see which 
> I have been advocating, we can imply dual-carriagewayness by a
combining a highway 
> tag with the tag pairs  'maxspeed=70' and
'maxspeed:type=GB:national'. I say this 
> because the '70 mph' value for maxspeed can only be used case
where a road is a 
> dual-carriageway. As we get clearer about what constitutes a
dual-carriageway or not 
> we then only need to change with speed between 70 mph to 60 mph.
We can then 
> also populate approach dual-carriageway tagging on these roads.

I prefer your compromise method for the very reasons you mention
about the ambiguous bits. On those bits you are either guessing what
numeric value to put in the maxspeed value, or you are guessing
nsl_single or nsl_dual (implying you are also guessing maxspeed). So
if you've guessed the speed you can't mix that with maxspeed=60/70
mph to identify dual carriageway anyway, and having national shows
where the ambiguities are better.

So, use GB:nsl_single or GB:nsl_dual with the correct (car) maxspeed
where they are known, and use GB:national where you aren't sure and
put 60 mph to err on the side of caution until evidence proves it
higher.

Ed


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