On 05/10/14 11:27, Spike wrote:
On 05/10/2014 10:47, David Woolley wrote:
A classic example is NaPTAN stop data, where the rule for one that has
gone away is to invalidate the bus stop tag and add
physically_present=no, but leave the node present.  I think I've seen
cases where a stop being moved has triggered an delete/add operation
that has lost he NaPTAN tagging.

Could I ask please the logic behind retaining references to a stop that
does not exist?

I have a local example of a stop that has not had a physical presence in
living memory but STILL shows on bus company maps.


I didn't set the rules, but I believe it is because the data is imported, so the existence of the data is controlled by the source of the import.

Whilst the object still exists, it no longer has the the highway=bus_stop tag, so is not considered to be a bus stop, and should be deleted from any routes that it is on (very few people actually map stops on routes in the first place).

There are also some stops that are actual stops, but are not signed (customary stops), and amongst those, you will probably find a few that are only used for rail replacement services, so would have to be surveyed on the right weekend to actually be found (they may have temporary signs on those days).

(There is a problem with NaPTAN, that has been discussed before, than the NaPTAN list is dynamic, but OSM only has a single snapshot of it.)

In practice, I think I have found more NaPTAN nodes deleted in error than ones that represent stops that are never used.

You will find other regional imports with special rules, and they tend to be the sort of things that get erroneously repaired by people working outside the area.


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