On 01/11/14 13:36, Dan S wrote:
2014-11-01 12:50 GMT+00:00 Richard Fairhurst <[email protected]>:
Matthijs Melissen wrote:
Voting is now open for the proposal to unify the names of chain
shops within the UK by renaming them.
No, it isn't.
Mechanical edits stand or fall by their own merits. They cannot be ok-ed by
a vote.
From the Automated Edits Code of Conduct: "We do not require or recommend a
formal vote, but if there is significant objection to your plan - and even
minorities may be significant! - then change it or drop it altogether."
We historically have a low tolerance of mechanical edits and imports in the
UK; we prefer to make large-scale changes by hand. That is one of the
reasons why the OSM map of the UK is so good. A "come one, come all" vote on
the wiki can be trivially gerrymandered into supporting your proposals
without any proof of approval by the people who are affected by such a bulk
change, i.e. UK mappers.
I am not sure where you got the idea of a "vote" for mechanical edits
(Wikipedia? wiki.osm.org tag pages?), but there is no precedent for it in
OSM and I would ask you to withdraw it.
The "rationale" part of the webpage* seems to me to set out Matthjis'
perspective on why to ask for a vote.
Also, Matthijs sent out an RFC email proposing this whole process - he
got lots of feedback (which he has taken into consideration), but
no-one objected to the voting mechanism. It's not your fault if you
only just noticed this happening, of course, but it's a little rude to
declare "No it isn't" in the sense of shutting him down when he's
proceeding in such an open and consultative manner. Lots of people
have discussed Matthijs' proposed changes in the RFC thread and now
this thread. To me, it seems a good example of consultation.
I'm objecting to the voting process now.
I dislike votes to 'approve' tags on the wiki, however when such a tag
is voted upon the main outcome is that the newly 'approved' tag is
labelled as such in the wiki. Setting aside other consequences, we are
all at least free to ignore such a new tag.
Voting on a mechanical edit is completely different. A mechanical edit
imposes one person's idea of what is correct on other people's edits.
This is, IMHO, wrong. A simple vote by a handful of people cannot be
allowed to validate such a change.
If Matthijs were to create an overlay for the map or even a simple list
showing the places he thinks are wrong, I would be glad check the ones
in the area I usually edit in, but if he changes things here that are
contrary to what is on the ground, I'll revert it and ask for Matthijs
to be blocked from editing, as I would any other vandal.
--
Cheers, Chris
user: chillly
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