On 18 December 2014 at 11:30, SK53 <[email protected]> wrote: > I personally feel the current discussion is now thrashing.
I personally feel that the opposition to Matthijs' work is becoming farcical. After setting up dozens of hoops for him to jump through, which he has done, and then because he managed that creating more and more, it's now in the position where people are proposing keeping demonstrably incorrect data in the database for no coherent reason. Moreover, despite all common sense showing that it never actually happens, we're expecting other people to spend their free time on meaningless, brainless drudge-work in order to fix simple typos by hand, in some kind of "well this sainsbury's might not actually have an apostrophe maybe it fell off the wall or something" nonsense. "Oh boy, I'm sure glad that all these typos are there for me to fix by hand! That's the /best/ use of my free time, it's /such/ fun." This mailing list appears to be having some sort of immune-response over-reaction. We don't like mechanical edits in general. Fine. Therefore every mechanical edit must be fought against, to the bitter end. That's an over-reaction. > No-one seems to dispute that we do not have a consensus, Can we leave it at > that "we agree to disagree". It is usual in such cases to keep the status > quo ante. No, that can't work any more. If we're going to build a successful community here in the UK then we need to cope with thousands of people having their own opinion, not just "no consensus" among a few dozen people on this list. Having every sensible plan derailed by "noticeable opposition" is not a scalable policy either. This concept of regional "opt-outs" is also badly thought through, since nobody is "in charge" of a particular area (no matter how much they might strut around on the lists) and encouraging people to self-appoint as having area-based vetoes builds the opposite of the community that we're trying to build. I'd like to encourage everyone to step back, and think of a better way to organize ourselves. This isn't it. Thanks, Andy _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
